Munster v Connacht

Discussion in 'Guinness Pro12' started by An Tarbh, Apr 17, 2009.

  1. An Tarbh

    An Tarbh Guest

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    Munster v Connacht</div>

    Munster will be looking to consolidate their lead at the top of the table and should do so with Warwick in control of things at flyhalf having made the switch from full back.

    Elsewhere Keith Earls will be another looking to impress in this final weekend before Lions selection although Tomás O'Leary may be slightly dissappointed not to get another chance to put down a marker with Stringer starting.

    There's 1 change to the Connacht side with Troy Nathan starting in the centre.

    Should be a routine bp win for Munster.

    Munster: D Hurley; D Howlett, B Murphy, K Earls, I Dowling; P Warwick, P Stringer; F Pucciariello, D Fogarty, T Buckley; M O'Driscoll capt, D Ryan; N Williams, N Ronan, D Leamy.

    Replacements: M Essex, M Horan, B Holland, D Wallace, T O'Leary, R O'Gara, L Mafi.

    Connacht: G Duffy; F Carr, N Ta'auso, T Nathan, L Bibo; I Keatley, F Murphy; B Wilkinson, S Cronin, R Loughney; A Browne/M Swift, A Farley; J Muldoon ©, J O'Connor, C Rigney/R Ofisa.

    Replacements: A Flavin, B McGovern, M Swift/D Gannon, C Rigney/D Nolan, C O'Loughlin, A Dunne, M Deane.
     
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  3. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    I'll be watching Cronin, Keatley and Carr with interest as it is my hope that a couple of those guys will end up at Munser at some stage!

    I'm happy to see a strong bench just in case all isn't going well come half time! Don't want a repeat of last time!
    Hopefully Earls and Ronan can both get themselves another hattrick though!
     
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  5. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    It looks like a nicely balanced Munster team, the sheer power and physicality of Williams and Leamy in the backrow partnered with Ronan's speed, agility and competitiveness at the breakdown.

    Earls and Murphy is very interesting, Earls did very well as 12 in the Churchill cup last summer, and give Murphy the ball and he can make something from nothing. With Stringer and Warwick running the show and the pace of Hurley and Howlett out wide it should hopefully be a very good game from a Munster point of view.

    I have been told Nick Williams will be one to watch this evening, he has apparently lost a lot of weight, so the folks on the terraces won't be mixing him up with Tony Buckley any more but he is Incredibly powerful as well.

    I rate Niva Ta'auso, but he isn't as much of a threat when partnered with Nathan, I'm happy that Mathews isn't playing as he is a far better player.
     
  6. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    I hope the Munster lads were watching the EDF Final, go out and score 80 points!

    Unlikely though.
     
  7. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    0/3....Fogarty coudln't hit the ground if he was aiming the ball at it
     
  8. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    It's some testament to the Munster depth that Barry Murphy isn't starting regularly for Munster. Lovely try, right through the middle of the Connacht centres!
     
  9. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    Howlett in for try number 2! break by Murphy (he's so dreamy) and a lovely offload and finished in the corner by the great one that is Dougie!

    Coverterted Munster 20 - 3 Connacht.
     
  10. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    Freddy gets try number three for Munster. Conversion wide.

    25 - 10
     
  11. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    Muldoon slaps the ball out of Stringers hands and gets a yellow.

    Beautiful open rinning rugby from both teams. really entertaining match.
     
  12. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    Munster hunting for Bonus point and Murphy given Man of the Match
     
  13. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    Munster win 25 - 10, but no Bonus point. Brilliant match to watch though!
     
  14. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    Indeed a great game. It's incredible that Barry Murphy, Denis Hurley, Niall Ronan, Donnacha Ryan and Peter Stringer aren't in our first team. All were very good, but Denis Hurley and Barry Murphy had f***ing spectacular games. Great to see Hurley playing with confidence again, as he is very talented.

    Keith Earls is possibly the most talented player playing rugby in Ireland. Incredible again, by the end of the game you expected him to beat 3 defenders every time he got the ball. Shame that he had two tries taken off him by last ditch ankle taps after tearing the defence to bits. Doug was excellent too, although I was disappointed he didn't back himself in the build up to Freddie's try.

    Great Game, Heineken Cup + Magners League double is definitely on! :bana: :cheers:
     
  15. shtove

    shtove Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Apr 19 2009, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Didn't see the game, but that looks like his trademark - set it up, rather than going for it. Wisdom of years and all that, but ...

    How did Keatley do?
     
  16. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shtove @ Apr 18 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Didn't see the game, but that looks like his trademark - set it up, rather than going for it. Wisdom of years and all that, but ...

    How did Keatley do?
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    He was only so-so today. But when the Connacht pack wasn't on the backfoot his distribution was excellent. Kicked well in the first half. But his kicking to touch in the second half was very iffy.
     
  17. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shtove @ Apr 18 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Didn't see the game, but that looks like his trademark - set it up, rather than going for it. Wisdom of years and all that, but ...

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    This was pretty much a straight run in from 25 metres out, all he had to do was put the foot down as he had no one in front of him, yet he passed to Baz who was in a much worse position than he was. Just though it was strange, most wingers would kill for a chance like that.
     
  18. QLD

    QLD Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Apr 18 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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    By this do you hope that Munster get to poach these players in the future? How is that good for Irish and Connacht rugby?
     
  19. monkeypigeon

    monkeypigeon Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dale @ Apr 19 2009, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
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    By this do you hope that Munster get to poach these players in the future? How is that good for Irish and Connacht rugby?

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    Most of the decent Connacht players a those that were in the acedemies in the other provinces and didn't yet have a realistic oppertunity for first team rugby in that province whether it be because there's alot of competition in that particular position or because that position needs more maturity or experience than they can get in an academy setting. So they're shipped off to Connacht to gain experience. So for example Keatley is from Leinster and Cronin from Munster (as far as I'm aware).

    Connacht is hence a 'development region. They recieve about half the funding that the other provinces get. Seems a bit harsh but Connacht is very sparesly populated and doesn't really have the same potential for growth as the other provinces and I don't think the IRFU or player pool could realisticaly support 4 provinces. Hence the idea is 3 strong teams + developement team.

    That's how it's good for Irish rugby and it's good for Connachy rugby because they'd be in a worse state if they didn't have the players sent over for development.

    :) I hope my answer suffices.
     
  20. QLD

    QLD Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Apr 19 2009, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    <_<

    By this do you hope that Munster get to poach these players in the future? How is that good for Irish and Connacht rugby?

    [/b][/quote]

    Most of the decent Connacht players a those that were in the acedemies in the other provinces and didn't yet have a realistic oppertunity for first team rugby in that province whether it be because there's alot of competition in that particular position or because that position needs more maturity or experience than they can get in an academy setting. So they're shipped off to Connacht to gain experience. So for example Keatley is from Leinster and Cronin from Munster (as far as I'm aware).

    Connacht is hence a 'development region. They recieve about half the funding that the other provinces get. Seems a bit harsh but Connacht is very sparesly populated and doesn't really have the same potential for growth as the other provinces and I don't think the IRFU or player pool could realisticaly support 4 provinces. Hence the idea is 3 strong teams + developement team.

    That's how it's good for Irish rugby and it's good for Connachy rugby because they'd be in a worse state if they didn't have the players sent over for development.

    :) I hope my answer suffices.
    [/b][/quote]

    So Connact rugby fans support their team knowing their a second fiddle team to the big three and are content with being wooden spoon favourites every season?
     
  21. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    It might not be good for Connacht, but it is good for the development of the players (and the players themselves) to be exposed to a higher standard of rugby at Munster or Leinster. For example current Munster, Ireland and probably Lions hooker Jerry Flannery was down the pecking order at Munster and getting no game time, he went to Connacht for a year or two and got consistent game time and came back a better player.

    Connacht are in reality poor team, with a small budget. It is in there best interest to sign young players from Munster and Leinster and promise them game time, as they will almost always be better than the players Connacht have. It's a win win situation really, Connacht get better players, and the players get more game time.

    In Connacht's team last night they had Sean Cronin (Munster), Frank Murphy (Munster), Ian Keatley (Leinster), Fionn Carr (Leinster), these guys are all talented players but won't get game time at their home province because of the international quality players ahead of them.
     
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