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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce_ma gooshvili" data-source="post: 1072832" data-attributes="member: 74121"><p>I appreciate and respect that many rugby fans don't wish to engage with this topic. So I've stolen a 9 year old idea elsewhere in the forum to make a dedicated thread, to hopefully help other threads from going off on a tangent that some won't enjoy. To kick things off, below is an article with a detailed breakdown of 6N squads with foreign raised players. Highlights include. </p><p></p><p>- 21 of 39 Scottish players appear to have been developed by foreign unions. This is the first time I'm aware of Scotland going over 50% foreign developed. </p><p>- Scotland has more foreign developed players than Wales and Ireland combined, despite all three countries arguably having broadly similar emigration history. </p><p>- Scotland has over a quarter of their squad qualifying via grandparent (10 of 39) compared to 3 for Italy and Wales and 2 for Ireland.</p><p>- Over a quarter of Scotland's players (10 of 39) were developed in England. </p><p></p><p>An emotive subject, but I think the article below goes into sufficient detail to allow us to make distinctions between the unions. For the record I love the 10 year cumulative residency rule (I wasn't aware of that being introduced) and am generally now very relaxed on residency now we've moved to 5 years (which is a large proportion of an active athlete's life). I also don't have such an issue with representing the nation of one of your parents even if I'm not over the moon about systematic attempts to attract players who have chosen to represent another nation at age grade. </p><p></p><p>Looking at each one in detail</p><p></p><p>- I applaud England and France (and to a lesser extent Ireland, who I think may actually be increasing the proportion of their players that they themselves are developing).</p><p>- I'm actually less aggrieved by Italy and Wales than I was expecting. Italy's stated plans to tap 7 players before this 6N clearly haven't borne fruit and so they stay off the naughty step for me just now (which, oh great, means I'll probably find myself supporting them again),</p><p>- I think by any objective measure the Scottish situation is getting completely out of hand with over 50% of players being developed by other unions. If we accept 50%, do we accept 100%? I hope this strategy of theirs is rewarded by defeat in every game until they go back to the drawing board and seek to emulate an Irish or NZ approach in comparably sized nations. It's a 'Swing Low, Sweet Chariot' for me this weekend, which is a first. If they revert to majority developed in Scotland I'll revert to neutrality. </p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2022/02/02/foreign-born-produced-players-in-2022-six-nations/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce_ma gooshvili, post: 1072832, member: 74121"] I appreciate and respect that many rugby fans don't wish to engage with this topic. So I've stolen a 9 year old idea elsewhere in the forum to make a dedicated thread, to hopefully help other threads from going off on a tangent that some won't enjoy. To kick things off, below is an article with a detailed breakdown of 6N squads with foreign raised players. Highlights include. - 21 of 39 Scottish players appear to have been developed by foreign unions. This is the first time I'm aware of Scotland going over 50% foreign developed. - Scotland has more foreign developed players than Wales and Ireland combined, despite all three countries arguably having broadly similar emigration history. - Scotland has over a quarter of their squad qualifying via grandparent (10 of 39) compared to 3 for Italy and Wales and 2 for Ireland. - Over a quarter of Scotland's players (10 of 39) were developed in England. An emotive subject, but I think the article below goes into sufficient detail to allow us to make distinctions between the unions. For the record I love the 10 year cumulative residency rule (I wasn't aware of that being introduced) and am generally now very relaxed on residency now we've moved to 5 years (which is a large proportion of an active athlete's life). I also don't have such an issue with representing the nation of one of your parents even if I'm not over the moon about systematic attempts to attract players who have chosen to represent another nation at age grade. Looking at each one in detail - I applaud England and France (and to a lesser extent Ireland, who I think may actually be increasing the proportion of their players that they themselves are developing). - I'm actually less aggrieved by Italy and Wales than I was expecting. Italy's stated plans to tap 7 players before this 6N clearly haven't borne fruit and so they stay off the naughty step for me just now (which, oh great, means I'll probably find myself supporting them again), - I think by any objective measure the Scottish situation is getting completely out of hand with over 50% of players being developed by other unions. If we accept 50%, do we accept 100%? I hope this strategy of theirs is rewarded by defeat in every game until they go back to the drawing board and seek to emulate an Irish or NZ approach in comparably sized nations. It's a 'Swing Low, Sweet Chariot' for me this weekend, which is a first. If they revert to majority developed in Scotland I'll revert to neutrality. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2022/02/02/foreign-born-produced-players-in-2022-six-nations/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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