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Yet another stat which is supposed to mean something............
Here's another one for ya. 61,000,000 people in your country and 4,000,000 in mine. If some idiots want to count the all the islands we so-called "poach from", then your adding another 2,000,000 at most. We still kick your ass raw over history. Hows that for a stat to mull over whilst you get invaded and roll over again?[/b]
No point going into those extremes - we get that stuff all the time (been living in NZ for 3 years) - and it sounds like bad blood everytime.
I talk for myself and a lot of french fans - i don't think you can even imagine how much the french respect the AB's - because kiwis don't seem to respect other teams very much (except the Safas).
I guess i base my jugdment from the drunken guys comments at the pub or at the stadium, and also the NZ media who is fueling the hate. I mean, i was reading articles in the NZ heralds called "Reasons to Hate the French" (ok, there was also a slightly shorter article "Reasons to love the Fench") But seriously, you'll never see an article ***led "Reasons to hate the Kiwis" or even "Reasons to hate the Rosebeefs" in france - that's not sports journalism (read that retard Chris Ratue from the Herald to understand what i am talking about)
i guess, all I am trying to say is that it's natural to be happy when you defeat the best rugby nation in the world - it's not rubbing it in your face, can we enjoy it at least a week every 15 years? is that too much to ask without having you trying to undermine France's win by providing excuses. When we got our asses mauled two years ago in NZ, we didn't try to find excuses, you just outclassed us and that was it - we lost.
I do think that NZ needs to lose more games - when you'll have lost as many games as we did you'll know how to lose without bitterness - damn, we lost so many times that we got used to it.
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Nah that article was just for fun, and actually he didn't write it it's an old list of jokes the anglo-saxon journalists use almost every time France plays. Most of the jokes are actually quite pro french like that one : "Apparently the French weren't convinced Saddam Hussein had WMDs, didn't believe he had links to al Qaeda and Islamic terrorism and didn't think the conflict could be easily won. More fool them." You don't have to be an expert in irony to understand it's rather flattering.
The fact that the Parisians are rude is a renown fact, and three quarters of the french population (those who don't live in Paris) will agree with it. I myself live in a quite touristic neighborhood in Paris and one of my favorite things is to be rude to the fat american families who ask me where the Eiffel tower is when they're at the Sacre Coeur. Sorry I've lived there for ten years now and I've enjoyed it for ten years... So I usually answer "follow the coca cola cans on the pavement and it should lead you there".
Drunken kiwis are the funniest people in the world. For a french fan above all, as we've had the right, for ten years now, to rub our world cup victories over them in their faces whenever they try to talk about those 40 points spankings they give us every now and then. The old "Kiwis are the world champions of meaningless games" is generally a good way to start funny conversations.
Enguelaz, don't be mad at CA, his french tumour is hurting at the moment but I'm sure he's got nothing against us...
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yeah, i got the irony of the article thanks
but these articles are still not dwelling in terms of sport journalism - and the Chris Ratue articles i was talking about were during the last world cup when that guy was releasing almost an article per day, quoting the same stats and finishing all his articles by: "should be a walk in the park" or "easy win for the AB's" - that's no journalism, that poo on paper - problem is that people get inspired by that and repeat the arrogance... He did the same this time, only talking about the AB's being weak because of injuries, missing players, bla bla - basically finding excuses a week before the game. that's not pro.(let me remind you he gets paid to produce such rubbish...)
It is sad because it doesn't represents most kiwis i hang out with - I have been here 3 years and i am don't really want to go home now because I have been warmly welcomed by 99.9% of Kiwis - i don't hang out in french communities here at all - NZ and its people have been so good to me it's unbelievable... but when it comes to rugby, it gets a bit heavy sometimes and you can feel the animosity straight after the game - bit of a shame coming from such a laid back country - in saying this, my favorite sheep shaggers are a good bunch - i get away with the odd RWC 99/07, Mururoa or Rainbow Warrior joke on a weekly basis and everybody's having a good time - so i guess it shows the good nature of the people downunder.
Maybe you guys need to ditch the Queen and the English arrogance that comes with it tho ;o)
Will be in Wellington fro the game on Saturday - really looking forward to it and hit courtney place and cuba st after the game - whatever the outcome is.
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