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<blockquote data-quote="saulan" data-source="post: 794352" data-attributes="member: 60236"><p>A few things on this:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The competitions you highlighted there are the domestic leagues. A more appropriate comparison would be between the Champions Cup and Super Rugby, especially now that we feature teams from four continents. It's just that our Champions Cup teams are consistently the same due to the way rugby is structured in the SH. The Champions Cup performs well with not every team playing against each other, but it is a lot shorter than Super Rugby and I don't think financially SAANZAR would go for it. Additionally, I don't necessarily think that not playing every opponent is what makes this format rubbish. The format is rubbish because it doesn't make any sense. Two Africa groups with one only playing NZ teams and one only playing Aus teams? Doesn't seem fair or make sense. For competitions with integrity where everyone doesn't play everyone, just take a look at some of America's sporting leagues. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think we have passed this point now, we can't go back. Because of money. That is not going to generate as much money as the current tournament and having Australia Rugby so cash strapped at the moment further compounds the problem. They need to come up with some kinda groupings which are fair and make sense. Perhaps based on performance in this year's Super Rugby and having teams at least play two teams from each group.</p><p></p><p>In terms of those the tournaments. Does the ITM Cup and Heartland Championship overlap with Super Rugby? The Vodacom Cup has been removed and has been replaced with a weird Currie Cup Qualifying tournament which 14 teams participate in. But it runs in tandem with Super Rugby so that the other unions and leftover players from the big unions have something to do. The Currie Cup itself I don't think clashes with SR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="saulan, post: 794352, member: 60236"] A few things on this: The competitions you highlighted there are the domestic leagues. A more appropriate comparison would be between the Champions Cup and Super Rugby, especially now that we feature teams from four continents. It's just that our Champions Cup teams are consistently the same due to the way rugby is structured in the SH. The Champions Cup performs well with not every team playing against each other, but it is a lot shorter than Super Rugby and I don't think financially SAANZAR would go for it. Additionally, I don't necessarily think that not playing every opponent is what makes this format rubbish. The format is rubbish because it doesn't make any sense. Two Africa groups with one only playing NZ teams and one only playing Aus teams? Doesn't seem fair or make sense. For competitions with integrity where everyone doesn't play everyone, just take a look at some of America's sporting leagues. I think we have passed this point now, we can't go back. Because of money. That is not going to generate as much money as the current tournament and having Australia Rugby so cash strapped at the moment further compounds the problem. They need to come up with some kinda groupings which are fair and make sense. Perhaps based on performance in this year's Super Rugby and having teams at least play two teams from each group. In terms of those the tournaments. Does the ITM Cup and Heartland Championship overlap with Super Rugby? The Vodacom Cup has been removed and has been replaced with a weird Currie Cup Qualifying tournament which 14 teams participate in. But it runs in tandem with Super Rugby so that the other unions and leftover players from the big unions have something to do. The Currie Cup itself I don't think clashes with SR. [/QUOTE]
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