NH Side v SH Side

Discussion in 'International Test Matches' started by Jockstap, Dec 15, 2009.

  1. Jockstap

    Jockstap Guest

    So I'm siting here in Queenstown bored and hung over and decided I'd stir up a shitstorm. In the past few years every time I'd think up these teams the SH would always look in a different league but after this year with the Lions Tour, French Tour and AI's to me at least I couldn't predict who'd win which from the NH's point of view is brill. I honestly think the Gap is closing.

    NH
    15 Kearney
    14 Bowe
    13 O'Driscoll
    12 Roberts
    11 Clerc
    10 Wilkinson
    9 Dupuy
    8 Parisse
    7 Moody
    6 Ferris
    5 O'Connell
    4 Chabal(not to sure about this one, put Chabal in to Counteract Botha)
    3 Castrogiovanni
    2 Flannery
    1 Jenkins

    16 Mas
    17 Barcella
    18 Shaw
    19 Dusatoir
    20 Phillips
    21 Trinc-Duc
    22 Medard

    SH
    15 Muliaina
    14 Sivivatu
    13 Fourie
    12 Nonu
    11 Habana
    10 Carter
    9 Du Preez
    8 Spies
    7 McCaw
    6 Elsom
    5 Botha
    4 Matfield
    3 Smit
    2 Du Pleiss
    1 Robinson

    16 Hore
    17 Woodcock
    18 Thorn
    19 Brussow
    20 Genia
    21 Giteau
    22 Steyn

    So that's my opinion of the two teams, the only real SH dominance I can see would be second and back row but even then there's not a lot in it. Thoughts.
     
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  3. C A Iversen

    C A Iversen Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jockstrap @ Dec 15 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Your only a couple hours up the road from me, you should come to Invercargill for a booze up!

    As for your thread, it's a hell of a lot more diplomatic and sensible than the last one I saw that mentioned skills from opposing hemispheres. I almost wouldn't change a single player from either side. I bet theres someone I'm not thinking of though, lol.
     
  4. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    Not a bad NH team, one glaring error, imo, is Wilkinson. Switch him out for someone (not sure who, i'm tempted to jump on the SEXTON-IS-GOD bandwagon) and it's pretty much there
     
  5. ChiefsFan

    ChiefsFan Guest

    I'd have Dusatoir at 6 for NH, maybe Giteau in for Nonu, Smith in for Fourie for the SH...
     
  6. stormer2010

    stormer2010 Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (C A Iversen @ Dec 15 2009, 07:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Your only a couple hours up the road from me, you should come to Invercargill for a booze up!

    As for your thread, it's a hell of a lot more diplomatic and sensible than the last one I saw that mentioned skills from opposing hemispheres. I almost wouldn't change a single player from either side. I bet theres someone I'm not thinking of though, lol.
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    Have to agree, considering this fuels the NH vs SH debate. But I guess its shows that he gap probably has closed somewhat, particularly in an exercise of this sort wher it negates the 'fact' that the SH teams probably has better depth.
     
  7. Olyy

    Olyy Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stormer2010 @ Dec 15 2009, 07:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I think Wilkinson is good, but not the best. He's a solid penalty/conversion kicker, and great in defense, but his kicking from hand was average at best in the AIs, and he's not great at controlling the game
     
  8. shazbooger

    shazbooger Guest

    Wilkinson, Dupuy, Moody, Chabal

    No no no and no. Probably okay with the rest.
     
  9. Jockstap

    Jockstap Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Dec 15 2009, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I still think Wilkinson is the best OH in the NH but I'm inclined to listen to a few changes for the rest. Your replacements then?
     
  10. shazbooger

    shazbooger Guest

    You picking Wilko on his 2003 form cause he hasnt been the best this year. Jones (the Lions outhalf) or Sexton would have to go in ahead of him but I'd select Jones.

    At 9 I'd play pretty much anyone aside from Dupuy. I dont want a dirty gouger representing anything other than an example of how NOT to behave. Philips is in a different class.

    Instead of Moody I'd stick any of the French backrow, but probably Dusatoir.

    Instead of Chabal I'd pick an international class second row forward. There are many of them, even two good ones playing for France.
     
  11. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    15. Kearney
    14. Bowe
    13. O'Driscoll
    12. Roberts
    11. Clerc
    10. Jones
    9. Cussiter

    8. Parisse
    7. Dusautoir
    6. Ferris
    5. O'Connell
    4. Millo Chuski
    3. CastroGiovanni
    2. Servat
    1. Jenkins



    SH team is spot on, I'd still pick the SH team to win, but the gap is definately closing.
     
  12. Bullitt

    Bullitt Guest

    World XV:

    Kearney
    Bowe,
    B O'Driscoll,
    D'Arcy,
    Fitzgerald
    O'Gara
    O'Leary
    Heaslip
    D Wallace
    Ferris
    O'Connell
    O'Callaghan
    Hayes
    Flannery
    Horan


    Amirite?
     
  13. shazbooger

    shazbooger Guest

    Nope.

    Healy in for Horan, and Sexton in for O'Gara
     
  14. Moonfire

    Moonfire Guest

    There's a lot of O's there...
     
  15. MunsterMan

    MunsterMan Guest

    Paddy Wallace and D'arcy is still pretty 50/50 too.
     
  16. Jer1cho

    Jer1cho Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jockstrap @ Dec 15 2009, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    That's better...
     
  17. stormer2010

    stormer2010 Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Dec 15 2009, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Dec 15 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Also get rid of that front row.
     
  18. shazbooger

    shazbooger Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stormer2010 @ Dec 15 2009, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Your just being Bias
     
  19. feicarsinn

    feicarsinn Guest

    Close Mite but I believe you'll it's:
    15 The Chiropractor101
    14 Gimley_uk
    13 Monkeypidgeon
    12 Munsterman
    11 Randwick Kingfisher
    10 An Tarbh
    9 Snoopy Snoopy Dog Dog
    8 Logorrhea
    7 Shtove
    6 Feicarsinn
    5 O'Rothlain
    4 My mate Steve (he's like 6"8)
    3 Lekso (hired forward grunt)
    2 Jockstrap
    1 Sean AF
     
  20. shazbooger

    shazbooger Guest

    I miss Gimley.

    Who was he anyhoo?
     
  21. feicarsinn

    feicarsinn Guest

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Dec 15 2009, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Well here's what you said of him:
     
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