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<blockquote data-quote="O&#039;Rothlain" data-source="post: 87256"><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism" target="_blank">Full Article</a></p><p>I initially assumed you were talking about "New" Nationalism as in a more intense form of the above. Just like there are the Neo-Nazis, and The Real IRA, I assumed you were speaking of the intense rebirth of Nationalism. Nationalsim has changed since my grandparents time. It has changed since the "World Wars" or "Great Wars." The infalibility of the state, and the idea of supremecy supercedes any sense of borders or the state. We (Americans) lived in a failed state of what the EU represents. By that I mean, we represent the worse case scenario for the European Union. America by its inception was a federation of states (ie New York was a sovereign state, The Commonwealth of Massachutses was a sovereign state...but connected by a federation of the former 13 colonies of Great Britain). Now, the states rights are largely ignored and the decline of the power of the state (and therefor the power of the people) has diminished greatly even in my short 27 years. With the recent additions of the Patriot Act and Homeland Security we are becoming a police state (and no, I'm not saying we're all big Sting fans). The National identity of America has evolved over the last 60 years (in my estimation) at a rapid pace. If anything it's the only thing that holds America together...we're so divided on every other point. The question is: Are We Too Large A Nation? Pride commeth before the fall.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="O'Rothlain, post: 87256"] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism"]Full Article[/url] I initially assumed you were talking about "New" Nationalism as in a more intense form of the above. Just like there are the Neo-Nazis, and The Real IRA, I assumed you were speaking of the intense rebirth of Nationalism. Nationalsim has changed since my grandparents time. It has changed since the "World Wars" or "Great Wars." The infalibility of the state, and the idea of supremecy supercedes any sense of borders or the state. We (Americans) lived in a failed state of what the EU represents. By that I mean, we represent the worse case scenario for the European Union. America by its inception was a federation of states (ie New York was a sovereign state, The Commonwealth of Massachutses was a sovereign state...but connected by a federation of the former 13 colonies of Great Britain). Now, the states rights are largely ignored and the decline of the power of the state (and therefor the power of the people) has diminished greatly even in my short 27 years. With the recent additions of the Patriot Act and Homeland Security we are becoming a police state (and no, I'm not saying we're all big Sting fans). The National identity of America has evolved over the last 60 years (in my estimation) at a rapid pace. If anything it's the only thing that holds America together...we're so divided on every other point. The question is: Are We Too Large A Nation? Pride commeth before the fall. [/QUOTE]
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