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THE CHIROPRACTOR101

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come on now....we have a stunning list of loose forwards,kinda like england back in the pre world cup campaigns where they had some great ones...floating around


6s
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flavell,kaino,j.collins,messam,gibbes


7s
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mccaw,blackie,holah,masoe,leo'o,latimer,braid


8s
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n.williams,sooialo,tuialii,lauaki,newby,mika,bates

we have got every type of number 8..powerhouse,speedster,athlectic,big hitter,big runner or a combination all....the only type we lack is the one with the authority of our previous legendary 8s..shelford and zz brooke

all the guys ive mentioned above are either former allblacks,current allblacks and ones who have the potential to become allblacks in the short future

how are we gonna keep these guys from going to the deeps of hell in the north?...
 
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dobrien7

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Nice observation, will be interesting to see what combination Henry goes for in different games, because as you mentioned, he's got the luxury of very different players in the same positions. Only drawback is that you can't really have 2 out of the 3 being similar types eg 2 bashers and 1 scavenger etc. Best combo I think is COllins, McCaw and Sooialo, basher and 2 scavengers.
 
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C A Iversen

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Yeah I tend to agree.

Although the guy in the picture below this text was one helluva flanker in his time. Shame his knee blew out every five minutes.
 
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dobrien7

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Originally posted by C A Iversen@May 19 2006, 10:01 AM
Yeah I tend to agree.

Although the guy in the picture below this text was one helluva flanker in his time. Shame his knee blew out every five minutes.
Yep crying shame, my All Blacks dream was over before it began, although am going to make a comeback to the dizzying heights of social rugby, just you wait...

And I'm half as good as the guy to the left in avatar at being an evasive winger, something about running away from men I believe... :p
 
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C A Iversen

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Just enjoying taking the **** out of him online. :) In all seriousness though, the flankers I like for NZ are:

Collins, McCaw and Lauaki.

And my avatar pic currently is Candyman, or as I call him sometimes: Mandycan !
 
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dobrien7

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Originally posted by woosaah@May 19 2006, 10:50 AM
you guys got a bet on or something?
??? Not that I know of...

Just ****-taking of the higher degree, back to topic...

Is Luaki still injured? Didn't he tear a pec' muscle or something?
 
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C A Iversen

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Yeah, he is still injured. Just listed him as the best candidate if fit. :toss:
 
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Dumbo

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For mine I'd still stick with Collins, McCaw, Sooialo with Lauaki on the bench.

Would be interested to see Flavell put his hand for number 8 (or even lock).
Tuialii, Masoe, Kaino, Messam I think will have a big future in the All Blacks.
You have to feel sorry for guys like Holah, Gibbes, Blackie (still might have a shot at the Black jersey) who just can't (but chould get a spot).

Still for Holah and Gibbes there's the Maori All Blacks... and at the end of the day is something to be proud of
 
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Wally

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Australia doesn't have anywhere near that depth but we'll be in probably our best position this year since Toutai left with..

Smith, Waugh, Croft, Fava, Lyons, Elsom, Palu, Roe, Doherty Heenan.

Wallaby backrow:

6. Palu 7. Smith 8. Heenan.. with Elsom (can cover second row too) and Waugh on the bench. Or if Connolly wants a specialist second rower, start Elsom at blindside and have Waugh or Palu on the bench.
 
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Candyman

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Originally posted by C A Iversen@May 19 2006, 10:54 AM
And my avatar pic currently is Candyman, or as I call him sometimes: Mandycan !
Oh come on your not suppose to tell them our bedroom names smoochy boochy :p
 
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TheBokke

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Originally posted by dobrien7+May 19 2006, 10:28 AM-->
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@May 19 2006, 10:01 AM
Yeah I tend to agree.

Although the guy in the picture below this text was one helluva flanker in his time. Shame his knee blew out every five minutes.
Yep crying shame, my All Blacks dream was over before it began, although am going to make a comeback to the dizzying heights of social rugby, just you wait...

And I'm half as good as the guy to the left in avatar at being an evasive winger, something about running away from men I believe... :p [/b]
So who is the giver and who is the taker in your relationship sorry I mean friendship :D
 
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C A Iversen

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Originally posted by TheBokke+May 19 2006, 08:16 PM-->
Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2006, 10:28 AM
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@May 19 2006, 10:01 AM
Yeah I tend to agree.

Although the guy in the picture below this text was one helluva flanker in his time. Shame his knee blew out every five minutes.

Yep crying shame, my All Blacks dream was over before it began, although am going to make a comeback to the dizzying heights of social rugby, just you wait...

And I'm half as good as the guy to the left in avatar at being an evasive winger, something about running away from men I believe... :p
So who is the giver and who is the taker in your relationship sorry I mean friendship :D [/b]

Depends on if it's Christmas time or not.
 
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Serge

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I think you are exagerating the lists by adding leo'o, latimer, braid messam, gibbes, newby, mika, bates. They are nothing special.
 
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SaintsFan_Webby

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The list of 7's is extremely scary. Especially when you consider Holah is down the list a bit.
 
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The TRUTH

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Originally posted by Serge@May 19 2006, 06:15 PM
I think you are exagerating the lists by adding leo'o, latimer, braid, messam, gibbes, newby, mika, bates. They are nothing special.
My thoughts exactly

6.Collins and Flavell = class

7.McCaw and Masoe = class ......( Holah = was class ,but has been average this year.)

8.Lauaki and So'oialo = class

The list of 7's is extremely scary. Especially when you consider Holah is down the list a bit. [/b]

McCaw and Masoe are the only world class 7's atm, you could add Holah to that list if he can get back to his previous years form.

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South Africa

6. Watson,Cronje

7.Burger, Smith

8. Wannenburg,Venter,van Niekerk



Australia

6.Elsom,Heenan

7.Smith,Waugh,Croft

8.Fava,Lyons
 
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SaintsFan_Webby

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Originally posted by The TRUTH!!@May 19 2006, 07:08 PM
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The list of 7's is extremely scary. Especially when you consider Holah is down the list a bit.

McCaw and Masoe are the only world class 7's atm, you could add Holah to that list if he can get back to his previous years form. [/b][/quote]
As an Englishman I'm jealous though, because we haven't had a world class 7 since Neil Back retired.

And however much you dislike him, you can't deny Back was a fantasically annoying 7 to have around.
 
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The TRUTH

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Originally posted by SaintsFan_Webby+May 20 2006, 02:19 AM-->
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@May 19 2006, 07:08 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
<div class='quotemain'>The list of 7's is extremely scary. Especially when you consider Holah is down the list a bit.

McCaw and Masoe are the only world class 7's atm, you could add Holah to that list if he can get back to his previous years form. [/b][/quote]
As an Englishman I'm jealous though, because we haven't had a world class 7 since Neil Back retired.

And however much you dislike him, you can't deny Back was a fantasically annoying 7 to have around. [/b][/quote]
Yes he was class
 
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allblacksfreak

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I wonder if anyone know a reason to the appaling lack of world class Flankers or backrow in general...
I mean being a kiwi, ppl who i met for the first time here generalises me as a "good" backrow... I am good :p but even without watching me play they just think that way...
 
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