NZRU Bring back the TMO..with a difference

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    The NZRU have resurrected the TMO for the ITM Cup (for NH readers, last year it was the Air New Zealand Cup; the National Provincial Championship)

    The difference here though, is that the TMO will be on the sideline, similar to the arrangement in the NFL

     
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    God Forbid that coaches be able to challenge calls and waste time going to a TMO like in the NFL. Why does the Southern Hemisphere insist on messing around with rugby? Every year they test out new laws and tinker with this and change up that. Enough already. I sound like a 80 year old man shouting at a pigeon, don't I?
     
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    I think it's good they've got a TMO, but to have him just at the side of the field isn't very good. It's better when they're away, and can't be swayed by anything/can avoid abuse from irate fans/managers on his calls


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    Well, we can do what we want in our domestic competition. We don't have a TMO on the sideline to alter the game in anyway, we do it to cut costs. Ideally, this situation wouldn't occur.
     
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    A TMO would possibly have changed the arrangement of the top four last year, on just one decision alone; the non awarding of a match-saving injury time try by Sona Taumalolo for Hawkes Bay v Canterbury in R12.

    [video=youtube;k1thHhpWpDE&start=55]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1thHhpWpDE&start=55[/video]


    It was disallowed by the AR as he ruled Taumalolo in touch, which clearly was not. That would have gone to the TMO who would have awarded the try.

    The Bay could have got a draw if Matt Berquist could have converted from the sideline. A draw was the difference between them getting them a home semi v Wellington instead of away v Canterbury.
     
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    How does a TMO "cut costs"?
     
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    I think the cutting costs is that this TMO will have access to the TV camera angles, whereas other TMOs have extra cameras in the stadium at their disposal.
    Still don't understand why he has to be on the sidelines though
     
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    Firstly, you are right. The "full" TMO requires additional camera angles, so that means more cameras... so more cost whereas the sideline TMO will only have the normal "non-TMO match" camera angles to choose from.

    Secondly, a full TMO is a fifth official who has a lot of special equipment installed in a booth. I have worked in one as an "assistant" VT Operator during a Super 12 match. The cost of installing and uninstalling all that equipment for each match is high. However, AIUI the fourth official (who usually manages subs, replacements water carriers and binned players) will be doubling as the sideline TMO when required.
     
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    LOL...haha...exactly!!! :D
     
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    Ok, so the point here that a cheap TMO will be used in NPC. Will he be used for any action or only like in Test Rugby to check if a try is scored or not?
     
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