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<blockquote data-quote="ncurd" data-source="post: 1058953" data-attributes="member: 72205"><p>It should noted its not just the stealing of their imagery its also the fact the stealing of it in this past was used to impart negative stereotypes of those people. Those same negative sterotypes are used in the Chiefs marketing.</p><p></p><p>I focused more on the numbers games but there's also the nature of the complaint which requires way more nuance as deciding what is and isn't a legitimate complaint.</p><p></p><p>Using the western culture example though it does have the issue. of level of impact of the change do we suddenly delete all of western culture just like do we delete all of middle eastern culture. I think its fair to say the impact greatly outweighs the fact some people just have live with the fact these things exist.</p><p></p><p>And I've tried to use examples with extreme logic points here for a reason its far more complex topic than is given credit by some (I don't think the Chiefs are a complex case the more and more you dig into it, its a mistake, nobody should be crucified but it definitely should stop).</p><p></p><p>Last year when CP2077 came out some of my very snowflakey friends to real exception to it for a multitude of reasons but none of it was really that extreme in offence given context and actual frequency in the game. However they were quite happy to be yelling about how much they liked an Ubisoft game, which if you look into the business envrioment of Ubisoft you'll know they caused actual harm to their employee's. When confronted about the harm of content of video game was a huge problem when compared actual harm caused to people and why one was okay but the other required constant posts not to buy something they didn't have a sensible answer. And think it get very complex we all know Kevin Spacey is a known shithead but how do we support films he made in the past which many many more creative people other than himself contributed towards. Although he personally is unlikely to be hired ever again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ncurd, post: 1058953, member: 72205"] It should noted its not just the stealing of their imagery its also the fact the stealing of it in this past was used to impart negative stereotypes of those people. Those same negative sterotypes are used in the Chiefs marketing. I focused more on the numbers games but there's also the nature of the complaint which requires way more nuance as deciding what is and isn't a legitimate complaint. Using the western culture example though it does have the issue. of level of impact of the change do we suddenly delete all of western culture just like do we delete all of middle eastern culture. I think its fair to say the impact greatly outweighs the fact some people just have live with the fact these things exist. And I've tried to use examples with extreme logic points here for a reason its far more complex topic than is given credit by some (I don't think the Chiefs are a complex case the more and more you dig into it, its a mistake, nobody should be crucified but it definitely should stop). Last year when CP2077 came out some of my very snowflakey friends to real exception to it for a multitude of reasons but none of it was really that extreme in offence given context and actual frequency in the game. However they were quite happy to be yelling about how much they liked an Ubisoft game, which if you look into the business envrioment of Ubisoft you'll know they caused actual harm to their employee's. When confronted about the harm of content of video game was a huge problem when compared actual harm caused to people and why one was okay but the other required constant posts not to buy something they didn't have a sensible answer. And think it get very complex we all know Kevin Spacey is a known shithead but how do we support films he made in the past which many many more creative people other than himself contributed towards. Although he personally is unlikely to be hired ever again. [/QUOTE]
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