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<blockquote data-quote="RedruthRFC" data-source="post: 809993" data-attributes="member: 58362"><p>That's about right, the origins have been debated here quite recently, it should be quite easy to find the thread or the articles it was based on if you're interested in reading more (sorry, I'm in a hurry so won't provide links). However, until the rebrand and in particular new logo, there was no implication of a native American link in the name.</p><p></p><p>Out of interest, what would be the basis of your objection to a new team called Chiefs?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I seem to remember reading a bit about the word "redskins" a while ago now I see it written again and tend to agree with your point of view. According to my comprehensive of Americana gleaned from watching American film and TV, I don;t agree at all about the Irish bit - my impression is that Irish-Americans were and still are subject to discrimination typified by the stereotype that they're a bunch of drunken brawlers.</p><p></p><p>Re: the Pirates, for the most part, I was engaging in reductio ad absurdum, clearly there is no cultural appropriation going on, but you could argue that it is promoting historic actions that shouldn't be celebrated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RedruthRFC, post: 809993, member: 58362"] That's about right, the origins have been debated here quite recently, it should be quite easy to find the thread or the articles it was based on if you're interested in reading more (sorry, I'm in a hurry so won't provide links). However, until the rebrand and in particular new logo, there was no implication of a native American link in the name. Out of interest, what would be the basis of your objection to a new team called Chiefs? I seem to remember reading a bit about the word "redskins" a while ago now I see it written again and tend to agree with your point of view. According to my comprehensive of Americana gleaned from watching American film and TV, I don;t agree at all about the Irish bit - my impression is that Irish-Americans were and still are subject to discrimination typified by the stereotype that they're a bunch of drunken brawlers. Re: the Pirates, for the most part, I was engaging in reductio ad absurdum, clearly there is no cultural appropriation going on, but you could argue that it is promoting historic actions that shouldn't be celebrated. [/QUOTE]
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