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<blockquote data-quote="Umaga&#039;s Witness" data-source="post: 1012091" data-attributes="member: 65365"><p>There's a sanction spectrum from cut their heads off, zero tolerance, to complete forgiveness, they did nothing wrong.</p><p></p><p>I don't think anyone's posts on here have implied a zero tolerance approach.</p><p>To me, the sanctions implied in people's posts have all been within a reasonable part of that spectrum, the shades of grey Appropriate for the 'crime'.</p><p></p><p>if you found similar tweets from me from ten years ago and came to my workplace demanding I be sacked I'd think that was ok, that you were within your rights to have such an opinion, that it was reasonable to have such an opinion, even if I disagreed. I wouldn't think you were putting yourself in a pedestal.</p><p></p><p>and I said it before, but I'll say it again, I don't think uar's initial reaction was all that different to what other countries would have done in a similar situation. Other countries probably wouldn't have suspended them, but they wouldn't have picked them until they were satisfied they had done enough to convince people they didn't hold those beliefs. And enough for that purpose would be more than some half-assed apologies. And certainly to regain the captaincy a huge effort would be required to demonstrate remorse and to promote equality, and such actions would be expected to continue while they were captain if they regained it.</p><p></p><p>the other thing to put in context here is I think the opinion that they aren't xenophobic and classist anymore, and the opinion that they probably still are, are both reasonable opinions given the available evidence at this stage. And I absolutely think that it would be inappropriate to hold such views and represent your country, even if you didn't act on those views. Sure, it's not ok to just assume they still hold those views, but it is reasonable given the circumstances to require more convincing that they no longer hold those views.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umaga's Witness, post: 1012091, member: 65365"] There’s a sanction spectrum from cut their heads off, zero tolerance, to complete forgiveness, they did nothing wrong. I don’t think anyone’s posts on here have implied a zero tolerance approach. To me, the sanctions implied in people’s posts have all been within a reasonable part of that spectrum, the shades of grey Appropriate for the ‘crime’. if you found similar tweets from me from ten years ago and came to my workplace demanding I be sacked I’d think that was ok, that you were within your rights to have such an opinion, that it was reasonable to have such an opinion, even if I disagreed. I wouldn’t think you were putting yourself in a pedestal. and I said it before, but I’ll say it again, I don’t think uar’s initial reaction was all that different to what other countries would have done in a similar situation. Other countries probably wouldn’t have suspended them, but they wouldn’t have picked them until they were satisfied they had done enough to convince people they didn’t hold those beliefs. And enough for that purpose would be more than some half-assed apologies. And certainly to regain the captaincy a huge effort would be required to demonstrate remorse and to promote equality, and such actions would be expected to continue while they were captain if they regained it. the other thing to put in context here is I think the opinion that they aren’t xenophobic and classist anymore, and the opinion that they probably still are, are both reasonable opinions given the available evidence at this stage. And I absolutely think that it would be inappropriate to hold such views and represent your country, even if you didn’t act on those views. Sure, it’s not ok to just assume they still hold those views, but it is reasonable given the circumstances to require more convincing that they no longer hold those views. [/QUOTE]
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