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Pablo Matera to fight for the survival of his International career?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 1012119" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>I spend half my time there, so why don't we stick to the arguments and leave the rest for another thread. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is what i can't comprehend about your argument. I cant use an analogy, even though i specifically acknowledged it was extreme and used only to prove a point, but you can compare Matera's tweets to the apartheid. </p><p>How does that work? Are you allowed to use extreme examples while i am not? </p><p>And the way Socino used apartheid in his tweet is very different from the way you used it. </p><p></p><p></p><p>In countries where you need a fair cause to fire someone, you wouldn't be able to do that. You cannot fire someone for something he did before he started working for the company (unless he specifically lied about it to get in). </p><p></p><p>See, here is probably where we disagree. </p><p>Accepting the possibility of someone changing is ridiculous? Really? And there shouldn't be any hint. The laws of pretty much western democracy put the burden of proof of the one accusing, in this case you. </p><p>You need to prove he is a racist and not me that he is not. You believe what he posted 7 years ago is proof enough. I do not. I am not saying he isn't, i am saying I do not know, the evidence i see is old to say the least and i am inclined to give him the benefit of doubt.</p><p>Unlike you, i don't consider your argument ridiculous. I understand where you are coming from, i just have a different view. </p><p>We've both been civil talking about this so far. Let's try to keep it that way, please (note i said "we", not you!). </p><p>Nice to see you back btw.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here we disagree. But that is ok. </p><p></p><p>Agreed, 100%.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 1012119, member: 55747"] I spend half my time there, so why don't we stick to the arguments and leave the rest for another thread. This is what i can't comprehend about your argument. I cant use an analogy, even though i specifically acknowledged it was extreme and used only to prove a point, but you can compare Matera's tweets to the apartheid. How does that work? Are you allowed to use extreme examples while i am not? And the way Socino used apartheid in his tweet is very different from the way you used it. In countries where you need a fair cause to fire someone, you wouldn't be able to do that. You cannot fire someone for something he did before he started working for the company (unless he specifically lied about it to get in). See, here is probably where we disagree. Accepting the possibility of someone changing is ridiculous? Really? And there shouldn't be any hint. The laws of pretty much western democracy put the burden of proof of the one accusing, in this case you. You need to prove he is a racist and not me that he is not. You believe what he posted 7 years ago is proof enough. I do not. I am not saying he isn't, i am saying I do not know, the evidence i see is old to say the least and i am inclined to give him the benefit of doubt. Unlike you, i don't consider your argument ridiculous. I understand where you are coming from, i just have a different view. We've both been civil talking about this so far. Let's try to keep it that way, please (note i said "we", not you!). Nice to see you back btw. Here we disagree. But that is ok. Agreed, 100%. [/QUOTE]
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