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Mr. Pichot said it very clear: " No chances in a short time to have 2 franchises in Arg. The main objective is to consolidate the Argentine franchise, and pursue the development of the game in South America, to include perhaps a franchise in Brazil in the near future."
 

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Muchas gracias.

My Spanish isn't good enough to understand every word but it looks like a pretty solid development plan. Basically it covers what a European or SANZAR player would take for granted in their club academy when they first turn professional, nutrition, fitness and performance monitoring, I assume the "encuentros de práctica" are training camps for technical / tactical work? Obviously you guys don't have the advantage of professional academies so it seems like as good a substitute as you can have at national level. How often does the PLADAR "squad" come together? Are you, and Argentinians in general, pleased with it as a method for developing young players? Facundo Isa was a PLADAR player, wasn't he and there was another back row that came on against France I think

The PLADAR is for ALL year, players receive salaries for belonging to PLADAR, they are treated as professionals, PLADAR is a professional level. About the squad that beat France in Paris last month, only 4 players have not belonged to PLADAR: Juan Martin Hernandez, Marcos Ayerza, Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino and Marcelo Bosch.

All other 19 players belong or belonged to PLADAR:

Juan Imhoff
Manuel Montero
Nicolas Sanchez
Tomas Cubelli
Agustin Creevy
Martin Landajo
Guido Petti
Tetaz Chaparro
Guido Petti
Tomas Lavanini
Facundo Isa
Javier Ortega Desio
Leonardo Senatore
Matias Cortese
Lucas Noguera Paz
Ramiro Herrera
Lucas Ponce
Tomas Lezana
Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias

Juan Imhoff and Agustin Creevy were born in the PLADAR, with Pampas XV playing the Vodacom Cup in South Africa. All Pampas players are from the PLADAR. A good thing about the PLADAR is that never had an age limit for players, ie is not an exclusive academy for players under 20 years, is also an Academy that is responsible for protecting and containment those good players who were outside the professional system, such as Agustin Creevy. He wasn't a kid when he was welcomed by the PLADAR, had about 25 years, but few years ago, in Argentina had not many opportunities to become a professional rugby player, many good players like Agustin were outside the system, then the PLADAR gave them containment and provide professional preparation for them.

The results so far have been wonderful, many PLADAR players now play in Europe and are great players like: Juan Imhoff, Agustin Creevy, Nico Sanchez and Ramiro Herrera. Many young players like: Facundo Isa, Tomas Lezana, Guido Petti and Ortega Desio showed in Paris that the level of training in PLADAR is at the same level as the best Top 14 teams because they resisted the attacks of the best French players ;)

10 years ago, a young Pumas team facing a team 100% professional like France in Paris, had been crushed by 100 points, but thanks to the PLADAR, our kids have a professional training level and can compete at the same level against the best professional players in rugby world.
 
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Muchas gracias.

My Spanish isn't good enough to understand every word but it looks like a pretty solid development plan. Basically it covers what a European or SANZAR player would take for granted in their club academy when they first turn professional, nutrition, fitness and performance monitoring, I assume the "encuentros de práctica" are training camps for technical / tactical work? Obviously you guys don't have the advantage of professional academies so it seems like as good a substitute as you can have at national level. How often does the PLADAR "squad" come together? Are you, and Argentinians in general, pleased with it as a method for developing young players? Facundo Isa was a PLADAR player, wasn't he and there was another back row that came on against France I think

Some data PLADAR 2011:

- 248 total players in the high performance Plan of the UAR (100 M-18, 60 M-19, 50 M-20 and 38 Seniors).

- 23 the average age of the squad (senior)

- 16 who were on the PlAR, in 2009 or 2010, who emigrated to Europe. They are Martin Bustos Moyano, Gonzalo Camacho, Santiago Fernández, Juan Figallo, Agustin Figuerola, Mariano Galarza, Juan Ignacio Gauthier, Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino, Agustín Guzmán, Martín Rodríguez, Horacio San Martin, Benjamin Urdapilleta, Miguel Avramovic, Agustin Creevy, Agustín Smidt and Gaston De Robertis.

- 6 which already debuted in Los Pumas (Julio Farías Cabello, Tomás Leonardi, Miguel de Achával, Genaro Fessia, Santiago Guzman and Mauro Comuzzi).

- 6 the unions contributing players (URBA, Córdoba, Tucumán, Rosario and Santa Fe).

- 5 centers of high performance that has the UAR in the country. They are Buenos Aires, Tucuman, Cordoba, Rosario and Mendoza.
 

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Muchas gracias.

My Spanish isn't good enough to understand every word but it looks like a pretty solid development plan. Basically it covers what a European or SANZAR player would take for granted in their club academy when they first turn professional, nutrition, fitness and performance monitoring, I assume the "encuentros de práctica" are training camps for technical / tactical work? Obviously you guys don't have the advantage of professional academies so it seems like as good a substitute as you can have at national level. How often does the PLADAR "squad" come together? Are you, and Argentinians in general, pleased with it as a method for developing young players? Facundo Isa was a PLADAR player, wasn't he and there was another back row that came on against France I think

The first year of the PLADAR in Tucumán:

What is the Pladar? Many will do this question. It's the high performance Plan of the UAR. It is conformed by the centers located in different regions, with bases in Tucumán, Cuyo, Cordoba, Rosario and Buenos Aires. Working every day with the players from each region and once a month is a national concentration.

It starts with a base of 100 players under 18 across the country. After the four concentrations, end of the year will be 60. Tucuman has 16 players who will begin their work in March with the Pladar.

The pyramid continues thus: under the age of 19 to start the season 60 players. End of the year will be 40. In the NOA region are 15 (8 of Tucumán). Under the age of 20 are 40. 26 will be in the list that will participate in the World Cup. In Tucumán are seven.

The only players who are paid per diem by train are Seniors. Tucuman has eight players, more Dino Cáceres, which integrates the national Seven.
These players, with the M20 M19 are Monday to Friday from 8 to 10, on the Court of Los Tarcos, where the headquarters of the NOA Pladar, directed by Ricardo Le Fort also works.

The final objective is the preparation of players so that they reach a level of high performance when you touch them to play in Los Pumas. The system fulfilled one year; the fruits will be later. The Pladar is underway.

Example of a youth national concentration Inter-PlaDAR:

On the first date of the quadrangular friendly Inter-PlaDAR the results were the following: Buenos Aires 26 - 15 Center/West-Coast 26 - NOA 24. On the second day, will face NOA vs. Buenos Aires and Litoral vs. Center/West.
 
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Some people complain about everything, before they complained because we weren't professionals. Now we are walking our first steps at the club level professionalism with our own Super Rugby franchise, and some supporters are complaining. It's ridiculous!

People were right to say Argentina that needs to institute a professional system in its country to kick on and now they're right to say that having everything resting on its shoulders is a very risky gamble. People shouldn't stop pointing out flaws and mistakes just because progress on one front is being made.
 

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The first year of the PLADAR in Tucumán:

What is the Pladar? Many will do this question. It's the high performance Plan of the UAR. It is conformed by the centers located in different regions, with bases in Tucumán, Cuyo, Cordoba, Rosario and Buenos Aires. Working every day with the players from each region and once a month is a national concentration.

So at the regional level the players train every day at a PLADAR centre - does this mean that, for example, Facundo Isa trains all week with PLADAR then on Saturday plays for Santiago Lawn Tennis Club with his amateur teammates? But he hasn't trained with them at all?

Example of a youth national concentration Inter-PlaDAR:

On the first date of the quadrangular friendly Inter-PlaDAR the results were the following: Buenos Aires 26 - 15 Center/West-Coast 26 - NOA 24. On the second day, will face NOA vs. Buenos Aires and Litoral vs. Center/West.

Sorry for all the questions - what is this Inter-PlaDAR competition, and how does it work? Do players play for their PlaDAR centre all season instead of their amateur club, or is it a short competition at the end?
 

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Mr. Pichot said it very clear: " No chances in a short time to have 2 franchises in Arg. The main objective is to consolidate the Argentine franchise, and pursue the development of the game in South America, to include perhaps a franchise in Brazil in the near future."

As great as he was a player, Pichot is a meddling, behind the times administrator.

Ok, we have found the solution. @psychic duc and @Superalexmarket are going to put the money to the second Super Rugby franchise of Argentina

;)

Thanks guys!
 
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So at the regional level the players train every day at a PLADAR centre - does this mean that, for example, Facundo Isa trains all week with PLADAR then on Saturday plays for Santiago Lawn Tennis Club with his amateur teammates? But he hasn't trained with them at all?

Sorry for all the questions - what is this Inter-PlaDAR competition, and how does it work? Do players play for their PlaDAR centre all season instead of their amateur club, or is it a short competition at the end?

The Pladar aims to develop and enhance each player individually, to be in the best physical conditions and techniques to compete with the world's great powers,
To approach that level, players train three to four hours a day, three or four times a week. This is in the Pladar. In addition, all are trained with their clubs.
Working in the physical and technical aspect. It is intended to strike a balance between both qualities, combined two are ideal. No doubt that the search is aimed at players of larger size in physical structure, but talented players, less physical structure are not discarded.
There differences between work in clubs and in the Pladar
The big difference is that clubs working with teams, have teams that form primarily at top campuses, and must develop players in youth ages, but a matter of time can be trained only twice a week, while in the Pladar have them three or four days a week. In addition, the Pladar works in the small technical details that often clubs don't have time to do it. This beyond that the Pladar has a professional structure dedicated to the technical aspect and not all clubs have this structure.

In Europe, all clubs have a structure devoted specifically to the player, which is undoubtedly more content by the same structure and therefore develops better.
The Pladar passed all at the players of the clubs to train and be at the height of the Pladar players; in Cordoba, this year, noticed a lot. For example, in the last Championship Argentina, both physical level as technician was very good, and added that they were a good group of players work, body trainers and Union, got a very good result.

Concentrations inter-pladar are held once per month and are spread over two or three days. The first day to work on each CEDAR (training centres) and second move to one of the centers where two games are disputed. They are four teams (CEDAR Centro and CEDAR West form a team).
The players train and play with their clubs, also trained every day and they play once a month against the other centers of high performance (campus for two or three days).
 
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The Pumas have a plan (translated with google translator)

By Sergio Stuart

OLE detailed system of the UAR governing since 2009: allowed 12 of the holders vs. Australia were 100% made in Argentina.

Take chest in the Argentina Rugby Union. Prompting the victory to Australia! Not only the relief of the players, the confidence to address what's next and confirm that the path is correct. The accounts making the Union give 19, the amount of bad of the squad of 23 who entered the Malvinas from Mendoza and passed through the Pladar, the high performance Plan that was presented February 1, 2009, whose objective aims to educate and train the players so that they become men's selection. The Quartet that does not fit into the figure already playing in European clubs before the creation of the plan: Ayerza, Agulla, Hernandez and Bosch. Another number: were 12 holders.

At that time, Agustín Pichot, already leader, walked with a folder under his arm that included dozens of pages with charts, figures and budgets based on the system of drafting, grants, sponsorship and other item of American football, adapted to the norms and customs of our country. Include wages, the Union of Buenos Aires opposed repairs, while the Interior supported. There are now just a few pockets of resistance.

Works with 40 major players; Today the database includes 960 cards from male M-16 to 60 and older adult women. By 2015 they think to reach 1,500. Francisco Rubio, director of the Pladar, points out: "the system is working. There is no other country that working without strong competition like us, and only has the task of the academies, centres of rugby and high performance. The value is immense."

In 2009, it had five training centres (Cedares) in Buenos Aires, Córdoba, Rosario, Tucumán and Mendoza. Today function, in addition, six centres of rugby and three academies, where players move according to their age and development. Those 14 seats covers 86% of the country.

The path to be Puma begins in the provinces; each Union chooses a group of juveniles that begins to develop in the physical preparation and skills. In M-18 go to the Cedares and are selected.

Basic training when it is no competition time is Monday through Friday with rest on Wednesday. Gym, physique and skills make up the base, already with concepts that will be familiar in the different selected, whether M-18, M-20, seven, Jaguars, Pampas XV or Pumas, and feminine. In times of local tournaments (URBA, Litoral, Cordoba, etc.) are distributed loads with the clubs. They are approximately 100 people, including coaches, doctors, nutritionists, trainers, physiotherapists, psychologists and administrators involved. Players receive wages or scholarships according to their status.

Although Los Pumas aims the 2015 world, the biggest harvest of the Pladar is targeted to be collected in 2016. Within two years, with the addition of a national franchise to the Super Rugby, the players will be hired exclusively by the UAR; They must or choose to play in clubs abroad or Los Pumas.


Pladar power us at all (Javier Ortega Desio - Pladar Puma)

First of all, served to us the Pladar to match the difference with those selected who have strong local competition, which does not exist in our country. Be in this system improves the issue of the physical part and skills. I started at age 18, six years ago, the first litter that was prepared in two seasons for a world M-20, and it went very well.

The Pladar out the best of each, power us to all. It makes you integrate necessary concepts for high performance. On each team that you advance the line of play is more complex; If in the Jaguars you have three codes of the line, in Los Pumas are ten. But the language is the same from youth level.

On Saturday I went against Australia without having international club experience because the coastal tournament game with students from Paraná. And I didn't feel a difference with the Wallabies. That's thanks to all who work in the Pladar.
 
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