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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 923382" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>Meh, I think Pichot's post whether the figures are right or wrong, was to spark a debate which some are trying their best to avoid.</p><p></p><p>Pichot and other have been quite outspoken about international rugby dying, and these stats (factual or not) are part of the problem. There isn't a sense of loyalty or patriotism in most of these countries when it comes to selection and playing for Queen and Country.</p><p></p><p>It's interesting to see South Africa also on 0%, but then I realised that only Tendai Mtawarira is a foreign-born player and he's currently in the USA promoting the game while injured.</p><p></p><p>I think however that there are some misguided perceptions when it comes to the origin of players and who they represent. I for one am totally against the manner in which guys like CJ Stander or Scotland's project players are getting into national teams. But in the case like George North, it's very hard to make judgement.</p><p></p><p>Based on geographics, where countries are so close to one another and distance isn't much of a problem as well as the general movement between countries so easily accessible, there shouldn't really be an issue if a guy born in London, represents England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Italy, Germany, or even Spain and Holland.</p><p></p><p>But when a guy travels nearly halfway around the globe because he's an oversight in the country where he's playing locally, and by some mircale he has a long lost granny which he only met once at a family reunion, and she's all of a sudden his lifeline to a new country with crappier players, that's where I have a big issue in how the residency rule is being abused.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 923382, member: 40658"] Meh, I think Pichot's post whether the figures are right or wrong, was to spark a debate which some are trying their best to avoid. Pichot and other have been quite outspoken about international rugby dying, and these stats (factual or not) are part of the problem. There isn't a sense of loyalty or patriotism in most of these countries when it comes to selection and playing for Queen and Country. It's interesting to see South Africa also on 0%, but then I realised that only Tendai Mtawarira is a foreign-born player and he's currently in the USA promoting the game while injured. I think however that there are some misguided perceptions when it comes to the origin of players and who they represent. I for one am totally against the manner in which guys like CJ Stander or Scotland's project players are getting into national teams. But in the case like George North, it's very hard to make judgement. Based on geographics, where countries are so close to one another and distance isn't much of a problem as well as the general movement between countries so easily accessible, there shouldn't really be an issue if a guy born in London, represents England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Italy, Germany, or even Spain and Holland. But when a guy travels nearly halfway around the globe because he's an oversight in the country where he's playing locally, and by some mircale he has a long lost granny which he only met once at a family reunion, and she's all of a sudden his lifeline to a new country with crappier players, that's where I have a big issue in how the residency rule is being abused. [/QUOTE]
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