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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_heineken" data-source="post: 923447" data-attributes="member: 40658"><p>Why do they want to play international rugby? It's not like most rugby players are getting paid more to play for an international team than for a club?</p><p></p><p>They play international rugby, to show how that country is performing against other countries and how their populace affects performance of the team.</p><p></p><p>If Scotland were to send 23 Scotsman, and they play crappy, then I'm much more comfortable with it watching them, Because in my view they are a true representative of their nation.</p><p></p><p>But when Scotland fields a team with WP Nel, Josh Strauss, Sean Maitland etc, who prior to them playing rugby professionally had no desire whatsoever to play for Scotland or to even live there, then I have a big issue watching them as that is not a true reflection of the nation. If we were to interview an 18-year old WP Nel while he's running out for Free State U/19, and ask him what is his dream. I can bet you a lot of money he would've said to play for the Springboks! At no point would he have said that his dream has always been to play for Scotland.</p><p></p><p>They went to another country, because they were rejected and they knew that they might have a chance to play for that national team. Seems like Scotland can't produce good loosehead props because both WP Nel and Dell are South Africans who went to School in SA. In fact, Dell represented South Africa at U/20 level.</p><p></p><p>Say what you want, they are mercenaries for hire who couldn't deal with the rejection at a young age and instead of fighting to go to the top, they pussied out and went somewhere else.</p><p></p><p>If you want to talk about CJ Stander, then fine, let's talk about him. When he left SA, our flankers were guys like Schalk Burger, Juan Smith, Heinrich Brussouw, Francois Louw & Danie Rossouw, to name but a few. He was just starting out for the Blue Bulls and only played senior rugby in SA for 3 years. Some guys only get their break after 4 or 5 years, and in his case his position was occupied by RWC winners, something no Irish flanker can say at the moment.</p><p></p><p>Mercs! all of them!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_heineken, post: 923447, member: 40658"] Why do they want to play international rugby? It's not like most rugby players are getting paid more to play for an international team than for a club? They play international rugby, to show how that country is performing against other countries and how their populace affects performance of the team. If Scotland were to send 23 Scotsman, and they play crappy, then I'm much more comfortable with it watching them, Because in my view they are a true representative of their nation. But when Scotland fields a team with WP Nel, Josh Strauss, Sean Maitland etc, who prior to them playing rugby professionally had no desire whatsoever to play for Scotland or to even live there, then I have a big issue watching them as that is not a true reflection of the nation. If we were to interview an 18-year old WP Nel while he's running out for Free State U/19, and ask him what is his dream. I can bet you a lot of money he would've said to play for the Springboks! At no point would he have said that his dream has always been to play for Scotland. They went to another country, because they were rejected and they knew that they might have a chance to play for that national team. Seems like Scotland can't produce good loosehead props because both WP Nel and Dell are South Africans who went to School in SA. In fact, Dell represented South Africa at U/20 level. Say what you want, they are mercenaries for hire who couldn't deal with the rejection at a young age and instead of fighting to go to the top, they pussied out and went somewhere else. If you want to talk about CJ Stander, then fine, let's talk about him. When he left SA, our flankers were guys like Schalk Burger, Juan Smith, Heinrich Brussouw, Francois Louw & Danie Rossouw, to name but a few. He was just starting out for the Blue Bulls and only played senior rugby in SA for 3 years. Some guys only get their break after 4 or 5 years, and in his case his position was occupied by RWC winners, something no Irish flanker can say at the moment. Mercs! all of them! [/QUOTE]
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