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<blockquote data-quote="Hall" data-source="post: 238217"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gay-Guy @ Jan 16 2009, 08:30 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=371418" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p>Yep...the top teams and their coaches know the real story....tackle counts and turnovers are important factors when looking at forwards...not so much try scoring. Halfbacks are judged by how fluid they get the team moving. First fives are judged by their field position kicking. Centres are often judged on missed tackles....100% tackling rate is crucial for a top flight centre...Conrad Smith missed one tackle in a test and the next game against Wales he was replaced.....Nonu miss marks BOD in a test and we never hear about him for an entire year.</p><p></p><p>When I used to play I was out in the centres or wing......I used to score tries and players would say "Wow you the man"....but seriously....scoring tries really has no value for an individual because rugby is a team game. It used to annoy me when people afterwards would talk about the game and "who scored"......it seems that their was a value system based on try scoring which negated the important work of the other 14 players.</p><p></p><p>Funny when you listen to Samoans talk after they have played a game they do not talk about who scored....they talk about the hits lol! If they do one big hit that is all they go on about all night....even if they lost or even if they missed a few tackles trying to get a hit on someone. The second thing they go on about is if someone outsprinted someone else. Getting points is actually of little value to a Samoan during the game.</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>I am guilty of going on about how many people I ran through/handed off after the game. Also turnovers, I never shut up about them, but that's acceptable I think <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Hall, post: 238217"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gay-Guy @ Jan 16 2009, 08:30 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=371418']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Yep...the top teams and their coaches know the real story....tackle counts and turnovers are important factors when looking at forwards...not so much try scoring. Halfbacks are judged by how fluid they get the team moving. First fives are judged by their field position kicking. Centres are often judged on missed tackles....100% tackling rate is crucial for a top flight centre...Conrad Smith missed one tackle in a test and the next game against Wales he was replaced.....Nonu miss marks BOD in a test and we never hear about him for an entire year. When I used to play I was out in the centres or wing......I used to score tries and players would say "Wow you the man"....but seriously....scoring tries really has no value for an individual because rugby is a team game. It used to annoy me when people afterwards would talk about the game and "who scored"......it seems that their was a value system based on try scoring which negated the important work of the other 14 players. Funny when you listen to Samoans talk after they have played a game they do not talk about who scored....they talk about the hits lol! If they do one big hit that is all they go on about all night....even if they lost or even if they missed a few tackles trying to get a hit on someone. The second thing they go on about is if someone outsprinted someone else. Getting points is actually of little value to a Samoan during the game. [/b][/quote] I am guilty of going on about how many people I ran through/handed off after the game. Also turnovers, I never shut up about them, but that's acceptable I think :P [/QUOTE]
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