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<blockquote data-quote="BigTen" data-source="post: 131898"><p><em>"...Nor did you answer my question, why don't i see those of Asian descent in business suits in Auckland and Dunedin, despite their higher prevalence in the New Zealand population than Whites/Aborigines in Australia..?"</em> <strong>Maccaweeny.</strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I apologise for not answering your question - it kind of got lost in all of the flak involving me and the truth.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I cannot believe that you do not see any Asian people in suits in Auckland - there are loads. Some JAFAs refer to Howick as Chowick simply because of the amount of Asians that live in that suburb. As for Dunedin - I don't know maybe it is the same reason that not many Maori live there - too cold!</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I know some of the underlying problems that face the Aborigine community - I have learnt a lot about their history and culture since coming to Melbourne. Drug, alcohol and substance abuse, isolation, limited access to health and education services, limited role models, and a cultural mindset all work against the Aborigine as a people. And all of these problems are tough to solve - you can't just throw money and make them all go away.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>But more seriously are the Australian government created problems - stolen generation, and the failure to allow Aborigines to vote in Federal elcctions unconditionally until 1967. Not to mention the stealing of tribal lands and resources.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Aborigines may indeed have special "privileges" in accessing education but this is hardly of any benefit if they struggle financially throughout undertaking this education or if after graduation no employers give them a chance. They may talk about equal employment but not many businesses go further than that.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>It is a tragedy that Aborigines are left behind in Australian society and forget Big Brother - there should be absolute outrage of how far they are behind the rest of Australia. And that is why I question it - sometimes it feels like when I talk to Aussies about that they simply don't care and think that Aborigines (I still hear the word Abo and even the N-word way too much for my liking) are all scum-bags!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now Maccaweeny you obviously have grown up with a lot of Aborigines and have learnt more about them and have a lot of respect for them - that is obvious - and also why you probably are not very happy with me. I can understand that - I would stand up against anyone that I thought was taking shots at Maori or any group that I had empathy with. I respect you for that - a lot of Australians wouldn't do what you are doing. But please remember that I never had a go at Aborigines and the reason that I am continuing to post here is because I want to clear it up.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>And as for Nowra - of course I have heard of it - I work in logistics. My geographical knowledge of Australia is still developing but I think that I know quite a bit for only being in the country for around 4 years.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I am not judging you so I think that writing "...I grew up in Nowra, probably never heard of it..." is a cheap shot of your own and extremely hypocritical of you to accuse me of something that you are now guilty of yourself. But that's okay - and hopefully now you will understand where I am coming from and realise that the truth just jumped to his own incorrect assumption and could only respond with cheap insults and an abuse of his power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigTen, post: 131898"] [i]"...Nor did you answer my question, why don't i see those of Asian descent in business suits in Auckland and Dunedin, despite their higher prevalence in the New Zealand population than Whites/Aborigines in Australia..?"[/i] [b]Maccaweeny.[/b] I apologise for not answering your question - it kind of got lost in all of the flak involving me and the truth. I cannot believe that you do not see any Asian people in suits in Auckland - there are loads. Some JAFAs refer to Howick as Chowick simply because of the amount of Asians that live in that suburb. As for Dunedin - I don't know maybe it is the same reason that not many Maori live there - too cold! I know some of the underlying problems that face the Aborigine community - I have learnt a lot about their history and culture since coming to Melbourne. Drug, alcohol and substance abuse, isolation, limited access to health and education services, limited role models, and a cultural mindset all work against the Aborigine as a people. And all of these problems are tough to solve - you can't just throw money and make them all go away. But more seriously are the Australian government created problems - stolen generation, and the failure to allow Aborigines to vote in Federal elcctions unconditionally until 1967. Not to mention the stealing of tribal lands and resources. Aborigines may indeed have special "privileges" in accessing education but this is hardly of any benefit if they struggle financially throughout undertaking this education or if after graduation no employers give them a chance. They may talk about equal employment but not many businesses go further than that. It is a tragedy that Aborigines are left behind in Australian society and forget Big Brother - there should be absolute outrage of how far they are behind the rest of Australia. And that is why I question it - sometimes it feels like when I talk to Aussies about that they simply don't care and think that Aborigines (I still hear the word Abo and even the N-word way too much for my liking) are all scum-bags! Now Maccaweeny you obviously have grown up with a lot of Aborigines and have learnt more about them and have a lot of respect for them - that is obvious - and also why you probably are not very happy with me. I can understand that - I would stand up against anyone that I thought was taking shots at Maori or any group that I had empathy with. I respect you for that - a lot of Australians wouldn't do what you are doing. But please remember that I never had a go at Aborigines and the reason that I am continuing to post here is because I want to clear it up. And as for Nowra - of course I have heard of it - I work in logistics. My geographical knowledge of Australia is still developing but I think that I know quite a bit for only being in the country for around 4 years. I am not judging you so I think that writing "...I grew up in Nowra, probably never heard of it..." is a cheap shot of your own and extremely hypocritical of you to accuse me of something that you are now guilty of yourself. But that's okay - and hopefully now you will understand where I am coming from and realise that the truth just jumped to his own incorrect assumption and could only respond with cheap insults and an abuse of his power. [/QUOTE]
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