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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 1049221" data-attributes="member: 73592"><p>First, the good news. Beli Mawr is settling in well; he's not shown any home-sickness; and only a little abandonment problems - is concerningly intelligent, but a touch too rambunctious for the older dogs - especially the 5 year old who wants him to get off her lawn...</p><p></p><p></p><p>For the older dog though... the last couple of weeks have not been kind.</p><p>17 days ago she was suffering from some pain - which we put down to being the elbow, which we'd had the osteopath look at a couple of days previously - which had put her through her paces, and we assumed had overdone things. Pain came on in the morning, and eased over a couple of hours.</p><p>15 days ago she was suffering from some gut-rot, and we put her on chicken and rice diet - we compared notes, and neither of us remembered a bowel movement in the past 2 days. We now assumed that her pain had been more bowel related than elbow.</p><p>After a week of chicken and rice, we took her the vet, who diagnosed gastroenteritis (gut rot) and put it down to thieving from the food bins). Gave us some medication for that, and another to boost the gut microbiome; we also wormed her just-in-case.</p><p>Her guts have not improved a bit, and the med.s ran out over the weekend. We've got an appointment with the vet again today.</p><p></p><p>But she's gradually less interested in food, has vomited a couple of times, including this morning; and there's been nothing but liquid emissions for 3 days now.</p><p></p><p></p><p>She's 11 years old, part giant breed, part large breed; so a life expectancy of around 8-12 (and her weight has been 40-42kg throughout life until last year's vaccination when she was 38kg - with wasting at the hips); she's increasingly frail, especially the last few weeks; and must have lost a good 10% of body weight recently - spine, ribs and shoulders are all now easily visible.</p><p></p><p>It's obviously not gut-rot; and almost certainly an obstruction - the question is what.</p><p>The obvious option is that she's eaten something too big - something like a corn cob - but I'd expect a lot more pain, and more rapid worstening - not to mention, the vet to have found... something last week).</p><p>The other thought is tumour - especially with coming on at the same time as the elbow that we're calling arthritis - not to mention the weakness we first really noticed back in May.</p><p></p><p>I think I'd actually prefer it to be cancer - given that she's not in pain. That way, there's no real decision to be made, just give her the best last few days / weeks / months that we can, and put her out of her misery the moment she stars being miserable.</p><p></p><p>But if it's an obstruction... would a frail 11 year old survive such an operation? (hell, would she survive the sedation to X-ray?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 1049221, member: 73592"] First, the good news. Beli Mawr is settling in well; he's not shown any home-sickness; and only a little abandonment problems - is concerningly intelligent, but a touch too rambunctious for the older dogs - especially the 5 year old who wants him to get off her lawn... For the older dog though... the last couple of weeks have not been kind. 17 days ago she was suffering from some pain - which we put down to being the elbow, which we'd had the osteopath look at a couple of days previously - which had put her through her paces, and we assumed had overdone things. Pain came on in the morning, and eased over a couple of hours. 15 days ago she was suffering from some gut-rot, and we put her on chicken and rice diet - we compared notes, and neither of us remembered a bowel movement in the past 2 days. We now assumed that her pain had been more bowel related than elbow. After a week of chicken and rice, we took her the vet, who diagnosed gastroenteritis (gut rot) and put it down to thieving from the food bins). Gave us some medication for that, and another to boost the gut microbiome; we also wormed her just-in-case. Her guts have not improved a bit, and the med.s ran out over the weekend. We've got an appointment with the vet again today. But she's gradually less interested in food, has vomited a couple of times, including this morning; and there's been nothing but liquid emissions for 3 days now. She's 11 years old, part giant breed, part large breed; so a life expectancy of around 8-12 (and her weight has been 40-42kg throughout life until last year's vaccination when she was 38kg - with wasting at the hips); she's increasingly frail, especially the last few weeks; and must have lost a good 10% of body weight recently - spine, ribs and shoulders are all now easily visible. It's obviously not gut-rot; and almost certainly an obstruction - the question is what. The obvious option is that she's eaten something too big - something like a corn cob - but I'd expect a lot more pain, and more rapid worstening - not to mention, the vet to have found... something last week). The other thought is tumour - especially with coming on at the same time as the elbow that we're calling arthritis - not to mention the weakness we first really noticed back in May. I think I'd actually prefer it to be cancer - given that she's not in pain. That way, there's no real decision to be made, just give her the best last few days / weeks / months that we can, and put her out of her misery the moment she stars being miserable. But if it's an obstruction... would a frail 11 year old survive such an operation? (hell, would she survive the sedation to X-ray?) [/QUOTE]
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