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<blockquote data-quote="DumbAmerican" data-source="post: 904623" data-attributes="member: 77777"><p>Hmmm. So another part of the equation our Scottish friend is missing when comparing the racial makeup of the England team vs. the South Africa is the genetic difference in the black population of the two countries. Black doesn't equal black just because they've got the same skin color. Group genetics matter, but population group doesn't necessarily equal broad racial categories. I've only met a handful of black South Africans, but they were smallish now that I think about it. I'd imagine UK blacks being mostly of West African descent are about the same size or maybe a bit bigger on average than white people.</p><p></p><p>It's funny you bring up the plight of the Indian people, because it's the same thing here with the Mexicans. If there's any sport, or any position within a sport, or any position within the coaching / business side of a sport where black people are unrepresented, underrepresented, or only barely overrepresented the media won't shut up about it. The people running the leagues pass new rules and sink money into programs designed to "fix" the situation. Meanwhile there are as many people with Mexican / Central American ancestry in the US as blacks. They have almost no presence in any major pro sports outside of soccer or boxing/MMA, and they have absolutely no presence in coaching/front office/ownership. You never hear a peep. California and Texas are both probably about 35-40% people of Mexican/Central American descent at the college age group. You watch major college sports teams from there and the football teams will be a mix of black and white, the baseball team will be mostly white with a few black guys, and the basketball team will be mostly black with a few white guys. It's the exact same as if you are watching a team from a state with almost no Mexicans like Mississippi or Minnesota. I just went and looked up the soccer team photos from a few Texas and California universities and there are Mexicans on those squads, but they are still way underrepresented. It's really a strange dynamic as to why the black vs. white representation is such a big deal, but nobody seems to care about the Mexicans. I don't really have a good theory on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DumbAmerican, post: 904623, member: 77777"] Hmmm. So another part of the equation our Scottish friend is missing when comparing the racial makeup of the England team vs. the South Africa is the genetic difference in the black population of the two countries. Black doesn't equal black just because they've got the same skin color. Group genetics matter, but population group doesn't necessarily equal broad racial categories. I've only met a handful of black South Africans, but they were smallish now that I think about it. I'd imagine UK blacks being mostly of West African descent are about the same size or maybe a bit bigger on average than white people. It's funny you bring up the plight of the Indian people, because it's the same thing here with the Mexicans. If there's any sport, or any position within a sport, or any position within the coaching / business side of a sport where black people are unrepresented, underrepresented, or only barely overrepresented the media won't shut up about it. The people running the leagues pass new rules and sink money into programs designed to "fix" the situation. Meanwhile there are as many people with Mexican / Central American ancestry in the US as blacks. They have almost no presence in any major pro sports outside of soccer or boxing/MMA, and they have absolutely no presence in coaching/front office/ownership. You never hear a peep. California and Texas are both probably about 35-40% people of Mexican/Central American descent at the college age group. You watch major college sports teams from there and the football teams will be a mix of black and white, the baseball team will be mostly white with a few black guys, and the basketball team will be mostly black with a few white guys. It's the exact same as if you are watching a team from a state with almost no Mexicans like Mississippi or Minnesota. I just went and looked up the soccer team photos from a few Texas and California universities and there are Mexicans on those squads, but they are still way underrepresented. It's really a strange dynamic as to why the black vs. white representation is such a big deal, but nobody seems to care about the Mexicans. I don't really have a good theory on it. [/QUOTE]
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