ah cheers for that mate seems like it is living up to the hype. shame you didn't get more time on it but anyway your insight will still be valued highly i would say. learning curve sounds good that it will take a little while to master and the ai seems to be good as well. hopefully you can put the footage you got up somewhere. I think more people are interested in tha ai anyway so no loss that you didn't play multiplayer with lox. thanks again mate and thanks to alternative software for making this happen