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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 568003" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>Underrated attacking ability?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Were they "odd bad games" though? He was poor in the big match at 3 RWC's. And poor in 3 Lions tours. That is not "the odd bad game", suggests to me more that </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am showing neutrality. I am just trying to get sense into those who trying to say he is one of the greats, not saying he was terrible when at his level. For most of his career he was good for Munster and did a job behind a good pack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong. ROG did. If you consider how his circumstance he was the luckiest set.</p><p></p><p>ROG had the luck of playing behind one of the best ever packs in Heineken Cup rugby, this allowed him to be able to just kick to the corners and get points from their hard work. I do give him credit for being good for pressure kicks in the last minute, but I do feel that other fly halves may have got much better out of D'Arcy, BOD etc and that Ireland generation wouldn't have needed a last minute drop goal. I think he was better with Munster than Ireland, more consistent, he was an average at best international fly half. However he was lucky in what team he ended up with, he played behind a pack which allowed him to kick and chip all through his career, contrast that to another non tackling fly half Steffan Jones stuck at the Dragons, if you swapped them teams, I doubt ROG would have ever been able to work his way up from a lesser team where he would get exposed behind a less dominant pack and one that had the ball less often. As I say, he must be luckiest player ever, was at the right place at the right time for an average player to get so many plaudits.</p><p></p><p>And by the way he was awful in 2003 RWC. He played in the Quarter Final and France were winning 37-0 after 50 odd minutes when he went off one of the tries which was his fault, and without him on the field the final score was 43-21, so they won 23-6 when he wasn't on the field.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile as for RWC 2011, he was poor when it counted in the quarter final. So yes, he was crap in every RWC and Lions tour, I don't see how a fly half who was awful in every attempt in the two biggest tournaments can be claimed to be "one of the greats".</p><p></p><p>[media=youtube]2XMQQnZTT2c[/media]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tbh Draggs, some of them hit the nail on the head.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 568003, member: 48703"] Underrated attacking ability? Were they "odd bad games" though? He was poor in the big match at 3 RWC's. And poor in 3 Lions tours. That is not "the odd bad game", suggests to me more that I am showing neutrality. I am just trying to get sense into those who trying to say he is one of the greats, not saying he was terrible when at his level. For most of his career he was good for Munster and did a job behind a good pack. Wrong. ROG did. If you consider how his circumstance he was the luckiest set. ROG had the luck of playing behind one of the best ever packs in Heineken Cup rugby, this allowed him to be able to just kick to the corners and get points from their hard work. I do give him credit for being good for pressure kicks in the last minute, but I do feel that other fly halves may have got much better out of D'Arcy, BOD etc and that Ireland generation wouldn't have needed a last minute drop goal. I think he was better with Munster than Ireland, more consistent, he was an average at best international fly half. However he was lucky in what team he ended up with, he played behind a pack which allowed him to kick and chip all through his career, contrast that to another non tackling fly half Steffan Jones stuck at the Dragons, if you swapped them teams, I doubt ROG would have ever been able to work his way up from a lesser team where he would get exposed behind a less dominant pack and one that had the ball less often. As I say, he must be luckiest player ever, was at the right place at the right time for an average player to get so many plaudits. And by the way he was awful in 2003 RWC. He played in the Quarter Final and France were winning 37-0 after 50 odd minutes when he went off one of the tries which was his fault, and without him on the field the final score was 43-21, so they won 23-6 when he wasn't on the field. Meanwhile as for RWC 2011, he was poor when it counted in the quarter final. So yes, he was crap in every RWC and Lions tour, I don't see how a fly half who was awful in every attempt in the two biggest tournaments can be claimed to be "one of the greats". [media=youtube]2XMQQnZTT2c[/media] Tbh Draggs, some of them hit the nail on the head. [/QUOTE]
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