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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 568439" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>Nobody has done that on this thread. There to prove a point. Fact is he wasn't as legendary as some make out.</p><p></p><p>If anything the cherry picking on this thread has been done by the stat men who post the points but fail to recognise 1) who earned the chances for those points 2) the good fortune circumstances that allowed ie no injuries, little competition mid career, coaches favouritism, right place right time.</p><p></p><p>Also cherrypicking done by ROG fans who remember the drop goals, but forget the overall play in the 80 minute performance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When has he "single handedly dragged Ireland to the right side of the scoreboard" as an individual? His drop goals were great as was an odd cross kick but it was the team who covered for ROG in defence and created points that were the ones who dragged Ireland to wins. Only time ROG ever made a telling contribution to the right side of the scoreboard in his career that was singled handed and not a drop goal was thanks to a dodgy referee chat in 2004. Saying he "single handedly" won when others in the Ireland side were the best players sound awfully like those who thought Donald had done anything particularly special to win the RWC.</p><p></p><p>Andy Goode has as many domestic medals as ROG yet I don't see people going round calling them legends and Ireland's greatest.</p><p></p><p>Don't want to seem too harsh and I am not saying he was a bad player. But this talk of "single handedly" dragging Ireland to wins and being "legend" is what I'm arguing against. Not arguing he was bad player. Just that he is overrated and not one of the top dozen 20 fly halves of the professional era.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 568439, member: 48703"] Nobody has done that on this thread. There to prove a point. Fact is he wasn't as legendary as some make out. If anything the cherry picking on this thread has been done by the stat men who post the points but fail to recognise 1) who earned the chances for those points 2) the good fortune circumstances that allowed ie no injuries, little competition mid career, coaches favouritism, right place right time. Also cherrypicking done by ROG fans who remember the drop goals, but forget the overall play in the 80 minute performance. When has he "single handedly dragged Ireland to the right side of the scoreboard" as an individual? His drop goals were great as was an odd cross kick but it was the team who covered for ROG in defence and created points that were the ones who dragged Ireland to wins. Only time ROG ever made a telling contribution to the right side of the scoreboard in his career that was singled handed and not a drop goal was thanks to a dodgy referee chat in 2004. Saying he "single handedly" won when others in the Ireland side were the best players sound awfully like those who thought Donald had done anything particularly special to win the RWC. Andy Goode has as many domestic medals as ROG yet I don't see people going round calling them legends and Ireland's greatest. Don't want to seem too harsh and I am not saying he was a bad player. But this talk of "single handedly" dragging Ireland to wins and being "legend" is what I'm arguing against. Not arguing he was bad player. Just that he is overrated and not one of the top dozen 20 fly halves of the professional era. [/QUOTE]
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