Round 2: Stormers v W Force

Discussion in 'General Rugby Union' started by Dumbo, Feb 6, 2007.

  1. Dumbo

    Dumbo Guest

    Both losers from last week, both will be looking to put in better performances than in the opening round.
    For the Force they are on the road with little time to acclimatise before taking on the Stormers.
    The Force will not have flyhalf Hilgendorf who bowed out with an injury against the Highlanders, but having Giteau as a replacement is not such a bad thing to have happen.

    Also hope the Force move Mitchell to the wing and give him a chance to have a run (shocking game for him last week), he’s a talented player but needs to get his act together.
    The Stormers thus far will be without lock Ross Skeate (injury and have not heard of who else is out of their line-up).

    On this one I’m going with the Force. Why?
    With Git. taking on the roll of fly half I think the Force will commit to a running game (although they have plenty of talent to cover the lineout’s).
    If the Force can play an expansive game then they can they could run rings around the Stormers who still appear to be out of sorts with what style of rugby they intend on playing.
     
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  3. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    This one will be tough for the Force

    The Stormers have a weak tight 5 and we have it all over them in the backs, so i feel the breakdown is where this game will be won or lost. If our loose forwards can compete with the Stormers monster back row and get our backs some quick ball ,then we should win this one.

    I'll go Force by 10
     
  4. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest


    Western Force:

    15 Drew Mitchell
    14 Scott Staniforth
    13 Ryan Cross
    12 Junior Palesasa
    11 Cameron Shepherd
    10 Matt Giteau
    9 Matt Henjak
    8 Scott Fava
    7 Richard Brown
    6 David Pusey
    5 Nathan Sharpe
    4 Rudi Vedelago
    3 Troy Takiari
    2 Brendan Cannon
    1 Gareth Hardy

    Replacements: 16 Tai McIsaac, 17 Angus Scott, 18 Luke Doherty, 19 David Pocock, 20 Chris O'Young, 21 Scott Daruda, 22 Haig Sare

    <_<
    Swap Drew and Shep around, Bring in Hodgson for Pusey, and get rid of Sare for Ioane and that would be a great team
     
  5. BokMagic

    BokMagic Guest

    Here is the Stormers line-up:

    15- Gio Aplon
    14- Breyton Paulse
    13- Corne Uys
    12- Jean De Villiers
    11- Conrad Jantjies
    10- Naas Olivier
    9- Bolla Conradie
    8- Joe Van Niekerk
    7- Schalk Burger
    6- Luke Watson(capt)
    5- Andries Bekker
    4- Gerrie Britz
    3- Eddie Andrews
    2- Schalk Brits
    1- JD Moller

    Replacements:
    16- Tiaan Liebenberg
    17- Brok Harris
    18- Francois V D Merwe
    19- Robbie Diack
    20- JP Joubert(ex-Framesby High!)
    21- Brent Russell
    22- De Wet Barry

    Pretty much the same as last week, save for an injury to Ross Skeate at lock. I would have preferred to start with Francois vd Merwe at lock, as he is definately the most physical of the Stormers locks, and our tight 5 is missing some mongrel. Big, strong, 126kg unit- why is he on the bench?

    Wrt the Force line-up, not much in the forwards to hurt the Stormers, with the exception of Sharpe and Fava. IMO Cannon is highly overrated. Very talented backline for the Force, as with the Stormers. However, it is looking decidedly dark in Cape Town at present, and unseasonal rain is predicted for the match, which would probably not suit either team.

    I`m going with the Stormers this week, only because of the fact that they`re up against another pretty average tight 5, and the Stormers should have it over the Force to the loose ball.
     
  6. Boggle

    Boggle Guest

    I've beenr eading about the weather for newlands the past week, things don't look too good :(

    I still have nightmares about that sharks game at kings park during the currie cup, NO Francious, you *******, it's not humanly possible !... *Wimper*
     
  7. Juggernaut

    Juggernaut Guest

    I just want to wish the Western Farce good luck for this weekends game.


    GOOD LUCK. :)
     
  8. They won! :eek: well done force!. :cheers: :D
     
  9. Wally

    Wally Guest

    They still played fairly poorly against a team that virtually beat themselves, like the Force last week. Attacking wise they were woeful considering the Stormers have probably one of the more erratic and unstructured defenses in the competition, granted it was raining. I'm happy they were able to grind out the win though.
     
  10. 1st game of there s.a tour..not bad and a good foundation to work off of as a victory
     
  11. The TRUTH

    The TRUTH Guest

    Well it wasn't pretty, and we were playing arguably the worst side in the comp.... but a wins a win and after last week we'll take anything.

    It's gotta be a positive that we won so easily without unleashing our backs, at least we know now that our forwards can compete.Once this backline starts to click we'll be very tough to beat, but thats still a few weeks away.

    Team i want to see next week...

    1.Hardy
    2.McIsaac
    3.Takiari
    4.Vedelago
    5.Sharpe
    6.Brown
    7.Hodgson
    8.Fava
    9.Henjak
    10.Giteau
    11.Ioane
    12.le' FORTH
    13.Cross
    14.Mitchell
    15.Shep

    16.Cannon
    17.Scott
    18.Doherty
    19.Pocock
    20.O'Young
    21.Hilgendorf
    22.Pelesasa


    ps. Just wanna give a big shout out to foxtel for the excellent coverage.... No feed in the second half?... f***outta here you amateur cnuts!
     
  12. BokMagic

    BokMagic Guest

    And with their "performance" on Sat, the Stormers are the early odds-on favourites to "achieve" the Super-14th place in this year`s comp.

    A couple of points wrt the current Stormers problems:

    - Selection: OK, so it`s common knowledge that the Stormers have one of the worst light 5`s in the comp. But what is one of the better tighthead props in SA, ex-Bull Andries Human, doing twiddling his thumbs in Paarl, while Boland falls under the Stormers region? Why is Francois V D Merwe, one of the leading lights during last season`s Currie Cup, warming the bench? Why did the Stormers contract Conrad Jantjies, good player that he is, but it`s not as if the Stormers are short of quality outside backs- why didn`t they rather look at getting a decent hooker, lock or loosehead? Why are the excellent Boland flyers, Rayno Benjamin and Jongi Nokwe, not included, and do players like Jantjies have to be imported? And why oh why is Brent Russell contracted, to sit and collect more splinters on the bench than at the Sharks, while we are really short of some inspiration at 10?

    - Coaching: After the debacle against the Cheetahs, what was Fester`s response? Uhm, let`s see- I don`t have much of a game-plan, so let`s just talk hard to the players and give them a long, hard training session. Rudolf Straueli and his Staaldraad tendencies revisited? And this while we have Gary Gold and Slapchips Rossouw working wonders at the lower levels with Province.

    - Captaincy: OK, so I`ll probably be crucified for this back in Cape Town, but do you really want a 22-year-old kid, who washed out his mouth of the whole Bok squad last year, captaining senior Boks like Schalkie, Big Joe and JDV, while they`ll most likely not respect him. Could this be the reason why Watson`s trying to do everything, including ill-advised chip-kicks, by himself?

    - Basics- Against the Cheetahs, we lost 4 from 7 line-out throws. Last season`s CC semi-final saw 2 missed kick-off receives ending in 14 Bulls points. The shocking decision-making and handling just follows this lead.

    Anyway, congratulations to the Force. If it wasn`t for the weather, the`d probably have put 40 on over the Stormers on Saturday`s performance. The Force now has something to work on and move forward from. The Stormers, not.
     
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