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<blockquote data-quote="best_fullback" data-source="post: 312703" data-attributes="member: 15318"><p>Woh this is pretty big debate! I have to say though Ranger, eventhough I have agreed with you 100% on most of the things you have put in this forum regarding Rugby 2012 I would have to disagree with you on some of this. I, personally, hate the end-on view. Its just a personal preference. Once I started to get used to the side-on view I thought it was fine, and as Craig has said, JLR used it and you couldn't change the camera on that. But it is each to their own.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there are any problems spotting gaps really and I've never had a problem. If you think about it, when you watch Rugby on TV its always side-on and I can always spot whether there is a gap in the defence or overlap. I would (if I were the developer) change the camera so it was higher though and you had a better view of the whole pitch i.e. Fifa 10. </p><p></p><p>I agree the special moves on previous ***les were awful. I found them fine to operate on side-on but either way were close to useless because they were all based on exact timing and nothing else. But I don't think they were bad just because of the view, I think they're bad because they just weren't designed very well. I wouldn't mind seeing right stick for moves, but I wouldn't mind the use of the shoulder buttons either. I just want to see non-canned animations that don't require exact timing to succeed - as you have said; fluid animations.</p><p></p><p>Getting back to kicking; I don't think using the right stick for kicking would work as<strong> Jaymzw</strong> has suggested. Maybe for goal kicking yes, but I just can't see using it for out of hand kicking for the varied amount of kicks, end-on or side-on. Im not sure if it has been lost in translation that Jaymzw meant goal kicking as in place kicking, and not a drop goal as us northern herisphere guys call it that has caused this debate?</p><p></p><p>Anyway I feel as I have shown in the first post that, as Craig has also said, that this is an area that only needs tweaking, not completely overhauling. Nice to see some constructive debating though!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="best_fullback, post: 312703, member: 15318"] Woh this is pretty big debate! I have to say though Ranger, eventhough I have agreed with you 100% on most of the things you have put in this forum regarding Rugby 2012 I would have to disagree with you on some of this. I, personally, hate the end-on view. Its just a personal preference. Once I started to get used to the side-on view I thought it was fine, and as Craig has said, JLR used it and you couldn't change the camera on that. But it is each to their own. I don't think there are any problems spotting gaps really and I've never had a problem. If you think about it, when you watch Rugby on TV its always side-on and I can always spot whether there is a gap in the defence or overlap. I would (if I were the developer) change the camera so it was higher though and you had a better view of the whole pitch i.e. Fifa 10. I agree the special moves on previous ***les were awful. I found them fine to operate on side-on but either way were close to useless because they were all based on exact timing and nothing else. But I don't think they were bad just because of the view, I think they're bad because they just weren't designed very well. I wouldn't mind seeing right stick for moves, but I wouldn't mind the use of the shoulder buttons either. I just want to see non-canned animations that don't require exact timing to succeed - as you have said; fluid animations. Getting back to kicking; I don't think using the right stick for kicking would work as[B] Jaymzw[/B] has suggested. Maybe for goal kicking yes, but I just can't see using it for out of hand kicking for the varied amount of kicks, end-on or side-on. Im not sure if it has been lost in translation that Jaymzw meant goal kicking as in place kicking, and not a drop goal as us northern herisphere guys call it that has caused this debate? Anyway I feel as I have shown in the first post that, as Craig has also said, that this is an area that only needs tweaking, not completely overhauling. Nice to see some constructive debating though! [/QUOTE]
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