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<blockquote data-quote="OllyM97" data-source="post: 1067954" data-attributes="member: 85525"><p>if the All Blacks lose to the French in the opener, which I think is a strong possibility, I think they are in massive trouble. I personally would not fancy them against the Springboks in a knockout game at the moment. The thing that has let NZ down for the last 3/4 years is the forwards. They get dominated by the best packs. Unless they give some of the young guns a go I don't see that changing before 2023. All I'll say is that as it currently stands, I have the ABs maybe 3rd/4th favourites for the WC. SA and France are certainly better than them in my opinion. The problem is the rugby public in NZ will always expect the ABs to win the WC even when I would question whether they have the team to do it. In other words expectation and the reality for NZ in 2023 could be two different things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OllyM97, post: 1067954, member: 85525"] if the All Blacks lose to the French in the opener, which I think is a strong possibility, I think they are in massive trouble. I personally would not fancy them against the Springboks in a knockout game at the moment. The thing that has let NZ down for the last 3/4 years is the forwards. They get dominated by the best packs. Unless they give some of the young guns a go I don’t see that changing before 2023. All I’ll say is that as it currently stands, I have the ABs maybe 3rd/4th favourites for the WC. SA and France are certainly better than them in my opinion. The problem is the rugby public in NZ will always expect the ABs to win the WC even when I would question whether they have the team to do it. In other words expectation and the reality for NZ in 2023 could be two different things. [/QUOTE]
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