[RWC19 Warm-Up] - England vs Ireland

[TRF_heineken]

Venue: Twickenham Stadium
Time: 16:00 CAT (SA, GMT+2) ​

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Bro central in here, I feel the warmth and positivity already.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Just 30 bros in short shorts banging it out for 90 mins on a Saturday afternoon,
Ain't nothing wrong with that

 

[Every Time Ref]

Bro central in here, I feel the warmth and positivity already.

Just 30 bros in short shorts banging it out for 90 mins on a Saturday afternoon,
Ain't nothing wrong with that

Hey bros, ready for some bro time bros??

Can we rename this thread **** The Welsh please

 

[TRF_heineken]

Poachers Unite!

 

[Brigantine]

Since rankings are being discussed more than usual atm...

Ireland is 1.90 RP above England atm, but England has home advantage, which brings them to a 1.10 RP advantage in this game. So an implied 55.5% chance of an England victory. Or if you allow for a (arbitrary) 3% chance of a draw, 54% chance for England and 43% chance for Ireland to win. I still call that a tossup.

If Ireland wins, we'll go from 3 teams ever in the top spot to 5, in the space of 2 weeks.
That bit I like. What I don't like is that the majority of best teams in the world will go from SH to even to NH, in the space of 2 weeks...

 

[TRF_heineken]

Since rankings are being discussed more than usual atm...

Ireland is 1.90 RP above England atm, but England has home advantage, which brings them to a 1.10 RP advantage in this game. So an implied 55.5% chance of an England victory. Or if you allow for a (arbitrary) 3% chance of a draw, 54% chance for England and 43% chance for Ireland to win. I still call that a tossup.

If Ireland wins, we'll go from 3 teams ever in the top spot to 5, in the space of 2 weeks.
That bit I like. What I don't like is that the majority of best teams in the world will go from SH to even to NH, in the space of 2 weeks...

What I don't like about this, is that Warm-up "friendlies" have an impact on the rankings at all. I mean, in some cases teams don't even field their best team like they would had it been a test series or EOYT.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Poachers Unite!

Not that it matters but England have one player in their world cup squad who didn't come through the England rugby systems, and he's qualified via blood anyway.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

The Indy says squads are being announced at 11am and 1pm for Ireland and England respectively

 

[Jockstap]

Just 30 bros in short shorts banging it out for 90 mins on a Saturday afternoon,
Ain't nothing wrong with that

What a cliche.

 

[Groundhog]

England may be the old enemy but we stand United in thatthe sense when Pangaea broke apart we were gifted to lie geographically in Earth's premier rugby hemisphere.

 

[bushytop]

England may be the old enemy but we stand United in thatthe sense when Pangaea broke apart we were gifted to lie geographically in Earth's premier rugby hemisphere.

Ain't got anything to do with it... my theory is your united in the hatred of Wales and the Welsh... it's all good though.

 

[Jockstap]

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/08/22/ireland-team-named-for-twickenham-test/

15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 90 caps
14. Larmour (St Mary's College/Leinster) 14 caps
13. Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 21 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 17 caps
11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 19 caps
10. Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 72 caps

1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 89 caps
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 117 caps
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 33 caps
4. Iain Henderson (Queens University/Ulster) 45 caps
5. Jean Kleyn (Munster) 1 cap
6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 57 caps
7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 17 caps
8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 31 caps

REPLACEMENTS
16. Sean Cronin (St Mary's College/Leinster) 68 caps
17. Jack McGrath (St Marys College/Leinster) 55 caps
18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 15 caps
19. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 65 caps
20. Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Munster) 6 caps
21. Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 11 caps
22. Jack Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht) 4 caps
23. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 13 caps

 

[Jockstap]

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/08/22/ireland-team-named-for-twickenham-test/

15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 90 caps
14. Larmour (St Mary's College/Leinster) 14 caps
13. Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 21 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 17 caps
11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 19 caps
10. Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 72 caps

1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 89 caps
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 117 caps
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 33 caps
4. Iain Henderson (Queens University/Ulster) 45 caps
5. Jean Kleyn (Munster) 1 cap
6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 57 caps
7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 17 caps
8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 31 caps

REPLACEMENTS
16. Sean Cronin (St Mary's College/Leinster) 68 caps
17. Jack McGrath (St Marys College/Leinster) 55 caps
18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 15 caps
19. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 65 caps
20. Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Munster) 6 caps
21. Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 11 caps
22. Jack Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht) 4 caps
23. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 13 caps

First choice starting XV bar Sexton, Ryan, Earls and Henshaw.

 

[big ginger 8]

Ain't got anything to do with it... my theory is your united in the hatred of Wales and the Welsh... it's all good though.

Nah it's Whales we don't like.

https://www.therugbyforum.com/threads/is-it-just-me-or-are-whales-getting-cocky.26826/

15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 90 caps
14. Larmour (St Mary's College/Leinster) 14 caps
13. Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 21 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 17 caps
11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 19 caps
10. Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 72 caps

1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 89 caps
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 117 caps
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 33 caps
4. Iain Henderson (Queens University/Ulster) 45 caps
5. Jean Kleyn (Munster) 1 cap
6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 57 caps
7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 17 caps
8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 31 caps

REPLACEMENTS
16. Sean Cronin (St Mary's College/Leinster) 68 caps
17. Jack McGrath (St Marys College/Leinster) 55 caps
18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 15 caps
19. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 65 caps
20. Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Munster) 6 caps
21. Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 11 caps
22. Jack Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht) 4 caps
23. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 13 caps

Pretty much as expected. Looking good for the McGrath lads and Beirne's versatility getting a good look.

 

[Groundhog]

Ain't got anything to do with it... my theory is your united in the hatred of Wales and the Welsh... it's all good though.

It is a fact that if I wish Wales and not Atlantis had dissapeared under the sea all those years ago. I also dont appreciate how this part of Wales above Snowdonia looks like a man in a hat pointing all accusatory at Wexford.

 

[bushytop]

Damn those Whales for stealing all our hate!

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/08/22/ireland-team-named-for-twickenham-test/

15. Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 90 caps
14. Larmour (St Mary's College/Leinster) 14 caps
13. Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 21 caps
12. Bundee Aki (Galwegians/Connacht) 17 caps
11. Jacob Stockdale (Lurgan/Ulster) 19 caps
10. Ross Byrne (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
9. Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 72 caps

1. Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 89 caps
2. Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 117 caps
3. Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 33 caps
4. Iain Henderson (Queens University/Ulster) 45 caps
5. Jean Kleyn (Munster) 1 cap
6. Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 57 caps
7. Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 17 caps
8. CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 31 caps

REPLACEMENTS
16. Sean Cronin (St Mary's College/Leinster) 68 caps
17. Jack McGrath (St Marys College/Leinster) 55 caps
18. Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster) 15 caps
19. Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 65 caps
20. Tadhg Beirne (Lansdowne/Munster) 6 caps
21. Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 11 caps
22. Jack Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht) 4 caps
23. Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 13 caps

Interesting that the IRFU have gotten rid of Larmour's first name for him.

Interesting selection, the Leinster halfbacks ahead of the Connacht ones and Kleyn ahead of Toner obvious talking points.

Ain't got anything to do with it... my theory is your united in the hatred of Wales and the Welsh... it's all good though.

It's Wales and Scotland to be fair... Losing us all that good RBS money and voting for Goddamn frenchies.

 

[bushytop]

Interesting that the IRFU have gotten rid of Larmour's first name for him.

Interesting selection, the Leinster halfbacks ahead of the Connacht ones and Kleyn ahead of Toner obvious talking points.


It's Wales and Scotland to be fair... Losing us all that good RBS money and voting for Goddamn frenchies.

I'm with you about the sponsorship, and with regards to the French World Cup... I couldn't possibly comment .

 

[TRF_heineken]

England may be the old enemy but we stand United in thatthe sense when Pangaea broke apart we were gifted to lie geographically in Earth's premier rugby hemisphere.

I thought it's because of Brexit, that England slowly wants to become like Ireland...

Split in 2, With one area still living in the past...