[RWC2019][3rd & 4th Place Playoff] New Zealand vs. Wales (01/11/2019)

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  1. ThebigARena

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    Of course no team wants to lose a game even if it's tiddlywinks , I think you are misunderstanding and you are also trying to Inflate a game into someting it simply isn't . You only need to look at the media Interest and the general interest of fans on this forum to see that this game is viewed as just an exhibition, there's really nothing at stake apart from financial and ranking points. Sure I'd love Wales to take the victory and so would the players and coaching team but it's not a life/death situation like making a world cup final.
     
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    neither's making a world cup final ;)
     
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    Of course no team wants to lose a game even if it's tiddlywinks , I think you are misunderstanding and you are also trying to Inflate a game into someting it simply isn't . You only need to look at the media Interest and the general interest of fans on this forum to see that this game is viewed as just an exhibition, there's really nothing at stake apart from financial and ranking points. Sure I'd love Wales to take the victory and so would the players and coaching team but it's not a life/death situation like making a world cup final.
    Maybe that is just reserved for winning a world cup final!
     
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    Wales will pull a sneaky on the All Blacks and take a win.
     
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    I mentioned before that there is absolutely no difference between 2nd and 8th place in this tournament and the only thing that matters is winning, it didn't go down well.
    Which is why the 8th/9th place game would actually have some significance and be worth playing.
     
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    fair play to him, i cant argue with trying to make things in rugby more special....but saying something that's been done for the last 40 years (he says since 1980) isn't tradition is a bit silly, how do things become tradition if you dont keep doing them? nothing thats been done for less that 40 years can be a tradition?
     
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    Best Wales memory under Gats? Non Welsh fans welcome to contribute
     
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    Gatland's coaching record with Wales is really impressive

    Played:150
    Won: 87
    Draw: 2
    Lost: 61
    Winning percentage: 58.00%

    Source: Wikipedia
     
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    Not against Aus/SA/NZ, 14.5% last time I looked. Ouch
     
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    It's one of the strange things about his reign of terror. He has excellent records against top NH Tier 1 sides but when they play the SH they go to ****. Like when the teams he has good record against play the SH they have a better chance of winning.

    Best example is Aus England have had their number for years with Aus victories occasionally occuring. Wales on the other hand had 1 win until Aus really started to implode 2 years ago.
     
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    I have always been convinced it's something to do with the style of rugby Gatland plays. I don't know if what I am about to say is unpopular opinion but I have never been that impressed with his lions campaigns either. The tour to Australia was against a very out of sorts Australia team where we could have easily lost 2-1. The tour to NZ, granted it's NZ in NZ but NZ were there to be got at and the calibre of lions players I feel a different coach could have won that series. And the draw was by the skin of our teeth let's be honest. There is a clear weakness in his career when it comes to the SH in my opinion. I am not particularly excited about the idea of 3 tests like the Wales Vs SA semi-final either. Get someone like Jamie Joseph in there coaching the best of Britain and Ireland :D
     
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    If he's that pumped up he should pick himself at hooker. He wasn't bad in his day.
     
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    Well as an England fan it would be the final game of the Lions tour of Australia. I imagine for many Welsh fans it would probably be the 2013 victory over England in the 6N (admittedly with Howler as coach) or the 2015 victory over England in the world cup.
     
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    I think everyone would be up for it, if it were "just an autumn international". Why is this any different? An exhibition? Anybody who thinks that does not deserve to wear the jersey, red or black. Two of the best teams in the world are playing for a bronze medal. Got further than Australia, France, Ireland, Argentina etc. none of whom are complete mugs.
     
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    Well that is a good attempt at trying to make the game relevant but the fact is Australia, France, Ireland, Argentina are all getting the same reward as 2-8th and chances are they can't even be bothered watching the game.
    I will be interested to see what the respective TV audiences are like I can't imagine they will be all that impressive in any country outside Japan.
    This cup has been a bit of a failure in NZ ( Even if they had made the final) ratings wise due to the limitation of our internet and the lack of coverage on free to air.
     
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    Well tbh mate an autumn international feels more exciting because youve just finished a 6nations campaign and you go into a 3 match series with the hope of winning them . After being knocked out the world cup the same feeling isn't there , like tell me why I'm not getting pre match nerves I've felt for every other game even Uruguay? Build it up in your head if you want but to me this is an exhibition at best.

    And just to add there's a lot more media coverage behind an autumn international , correct me if I'm wrong but I've not see a single drop of media coverage for this game , hell and they even watching it in NZ? That should tell you all you need to know .
     
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    No media coverage at all....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50244299

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50232481

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50245173

    Didn’t have to go looking....
     
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    I suppose if the game was on at 3 pm on a Saturday or Sunday to give me a chance to get tanked up I'd give it a lot more Interest. it doesn't really help being on at 9.30 am on a Friday morning, hard to build excitement levels on the way to work!
     
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