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[RWC2019][3rd & 4th Place Playoff] New Zealand vs. Wales (01/11/2019)
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<blockquote data-quote="bushytop" data-source="post: 975165" data-attributes="member: 56738"><p>Notes from 'A Cautionary Tale':</p><p></p><p>I do get where your coming from but as a guy who was born in the late 70's, I had to watch Wales **** the bed almost every match for over 20 years. There was the occasional match where the bed linen would come out ok but on the whole we got massacred... consistently.</p><p></p><p>Graham Henry and Steve Hansen got the 'tanker' to ever so slowly start turning around in the right direction, eventually resulting in the Ruddock coached Grand Slam of '05 but even then there was the ignominy of the 2006 6 Nations as well as the 6 Nations and World Cup of '07.</p><p></p><p>What Gatland has done, with the raw materials available is very near miraculous. I understand that we are not too pleasant on the eye and I also lament our lack of a World Cup final but the consistency of Wales being able to consistently 'compete' at the highest table seemed like a pipe dream to me for the first three decades of my life... particularly when we were conceding almost 100 points in one match to the SH big 3.</p><p></p><p>There is no doubts Gats isn't perfect but I for one am extremely concerned about how we'll manage without him. I hope I'm wrong. I hope we play infinite-plays with the quality never dipping below that of 'the try'. I hope we reel off Grand Slams for fun and expose Gatlands limitations by reaching our first World Cup final in 2023 by cutting all opposition to shreds. Do I think it will happen though?</p><p></p><p>No! Sadly I think we'll become part of the lower half of the 6 Nations. In all probability it'll be us and Scotland 'competing' for the most easy on the eye play style, while avoiding the Wooden Spoon.</p><p></p><p>I take it from you're username that you were born in '91... which means by the time you started seriously watching Wales on the international stage we would soon win our first slam for 27 years. Then another in '08, and another in '12 followed by a championship in '13 and another Slam in '19. I totally get that to you, it must just be cyclical right, and we'll have a transitional year, maybe two and we'll be back on top... but all bar one ('05) were under Gats or his influence ('13).</p><p></p><p>I'd brace yourself for some lean times if I were you, then if I'm wrong and Pivac coaches us to the same level of success or more than Gats did, while we are also playing sexy rugby you haven't lost anything. But if I'm right, at least you'll be prepared... and it won't hit you by surprise cause it's the ones you don't see coming that hit you the hardest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bushytop, post: 975165, member: 56738"] Notes from ‘A Cautionary Tale’: I do get where your coming from but as a guy who was born in the late 70’s, I had to watch Wales **** the bed almost every match for over 20 years. There was the occasional match where the bed linen would come out ok but on the whole we got massacred... consistently. Graham Henry and Steve Hansen got the ‘tanker’ to ever so slowly start turning around in the right direction, eventually resulting in the Ruddock coached Grand Slam of ‘05 but even then there was the ignominy of the 2006 6 Nations as well as the 6 Nations and World Cup of ‘07. What Gatland has done, with the raw materials available is very near miraculous. I understand that we are not too pleasant on the eye and I also lament our lack of a World Cup final but the consistency of Wales being able to consistently ‘compete’ at the highest table seemed like a pipe dream to me for the first three decades of my life... particularly when we were conceding almost 100 points in one match to the SH big 3. There is no doubts Gats isn’t perfect but I for one am extremely concerned about how we’ll manage without him. I hope I’m wrong. I hope we play infinite-plays with the quality never dipping below that of ‘the try’. I hope we reel off Grand Slams for fun and expose Gatlands limitations by reaching our first World Cup final in 2023 by cutting all opposition to shreds. Do I think it will happen though? No! Sadly I think we’ll become part of the lower half of the 6 Nations. In all probability it’ll be us and Scotland ‘competing’ for the most easy on the eye play style, while avoiding the Wooden Spoon. I take it from you’re username that you were born in ‘91... which means by the time you started seriously watching Wales on the international stage we would soon win our first slam for 27 years. Then another in ‘08, and another in ‘12 followed by a championship in ‘13 and another Slam in ‘19. I totally get that to you, it must just be cyclical right, and we’ll have a transitional year, maybe two and we’ll be back on top... but all bar one (‘05) were under Gats or his influence (‘13). I’d brace yourself for some lean times if I were you, then if I’m wrong and Pivac coaches us to the same level of success or more than Gats did, while we are also playing sexy rugby you haven’t lost anything. But if I’m right, at least you’ll be prepared... and it won’t hit you by surprise cause it’s the ones you don’t see coming that hit you the hardest. [/QUOTE]
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