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[RWC2019][3rd & 4th Place Playoff] New Zealand vs. Wales (01/11/2019)
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<blockquote data-quote="Not Eddie Jones" data-source="post: 976318" data-attributes="member: 81025"><p>Yeah, my big problem with it is that lack of progress that he brought. 12 years is a loooong time and they never really developed their game over that time, yet what happened before Gatland came is still the yardstick by which Wales' success or failure is measured even now (as opposed to, say, 3 six nations ***les in his first 6 years being the yardstick). It seemed to get into a cycle of every time Wales lost, they were 'competitive' and 'punching above their weight' coz it was only poor widdle old Wales, whereas every time they won, it was because Gatland was a genius and weren't widdle old Wales lucky to have such a wonderful coach as him and they should be grateful. I never liked that idea of Wales win because of Gatland and Wales lose because they're Wales, but its become a very popular rhetoric for the last 6 years or so (during which Gatland has won just 1 six nations ***le).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Not Eddie Jones, post: 976318, member: 81025"] Yeah, my big problem with it is that lack of progress that he brought. 12 years is a loooong time and they never really developed their game over that time, yet what happened before Gatland came is still the yardstick by which Wales' success or failure is measured even now (as opposed to, say, 3 six nations ***les in his first 6 years being the yardstick). It seemed to get into a cycle of every time Wales lost, they were 'competitive' and 'punching above their weight' coz it was only poor widdle old Wales, whereas every time they won, it was because Gatland was a genius and weren't widdle old Wales lucky to have such a wonderful coach as him and they should be grateful. I never liked that idea of Wales win because of Gatland and Wales lose because they're Wales, but its become a very popular rhetoric for the last 6 years or so (during which Gatland has won just 1 six nations ***le). [/QUOTE]
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