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[RWC2019][3rd & 4th Place Playoff] New Zealand vs. Wales (01/11/2019)
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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 976366" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>Gatland is a hard one to judge, massively successful against the likes of O'Sullivan, Kidney, Johnson, Lancaster etc... But once Schmidt, and then Jones came it took him six years to win the 6n while those two won half of theirs. That, coupled with the appalling record against the SH, holds him back a little in my books but then again I don't think he had the player base Schmidt or Jones had for most of the last 6 years and Wales were probably only as uncompetitive as Ireland were this year or England were last year once or twice in that period. </p><p></p><p>Definitely a positive for Wales, a bit more innovation was probably needed, he stuck with his mate Howley until the bitter end and I think that'll be seen as the step which stopped Wales getting to the level Ireland were and England are in being competitive against the best the SH has to offer. Whether that's a realistic goal for Wales is probably the big question, I think the comparison with Ireland is a good one, resources are fairly similar, but it must be borne in mind that we're the biggest bottlers in international rugby.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 976366, member: 45598"] Gatland is a hard one to judge, massively successful against the likes of O'Sullivan, Kidney, Johnson, Lancaster etc... But once Schmidt, and then Jones came it took him six years to win the 6n while those two won half of theirs. That, coupled with the appalling record against the SH, holds him back a little in my books but then again I don't think he had the player base Schmidt or Jones had for most of the last 6 years and Wales were probably only as uncompetitive as Ireland were this year or England were last year once or twice in that period. Definitely a positive for Wales, a bit more innovation was probably needed, he stuck with his mate Howley until the bitter end and I think that'll be seen as the step which stopped Wales getting to the level Ireland were and England are in being competitive against the best the SH has to offer. Whether that's a realistic goal for Wales is probably the big question, I think the comparison with Ireland is a good one, resources are fairly similar, but it must be borne in mind that we're the biggest bottlers in international rugby. [/QUOTE]
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