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[RWC2019][The Final] England vs. South Africa (02/11/2019)
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<blockquote data-quote="Vieux Talonneur" data-source="post: 979064" data-attributes="member: 73144"><p>That didn't ring true so I checked with Wikipedia. Any player stat is unreliable, but at least Wiki is consistently unreliable.</p><p></p><p>Overall Eng 933 kg Boks 940</p><p></p><p>In the front row Eng 358 kg v SA 350. From our perspective Cole's past it and Mako has never been better than an average scrummager at best - we really need to learn this lesson. Doubt Sinckler would have made much difference bar better quality verbals.</p><p></p><p>The difference is stark at lock 230 kg Eng vs 248 SA.</p><p></p><p>Lawes 2.01, 115 and Itoje 1.95, 115 vs Etzebeth 2.03, 123 and De Jäger 2.06, 125.</p><p></p><p>For all our claims to have 4 world class locks this is something we really need to think about.</p><p></p><p>Back row pretty even Eng 345 (distorted by the 130 kg of Binny) v 342.</p><p></p><p>I think the main difference is that the Boks still see the scrum as an important part of the game while we seem to be looking at it as a necessary evil and putting more emphasis on all round attributes. As far as front fives are concerned I think the Boks are definitely on the right track.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vieux Talonneur, post: 979064, member: 73144"] That didn’t ring true so I checked with Wikipedia. Any player stat is unreliable, but at least Wiki is consistently unreliable. Overall Eng 933 kg Boks 940 In the front row Eng 358 kg v SA 350. From our perspective Cole’s past it and Mako has never been better than an average scrummager at best - we really need to learn this lesson. Doubt Sinckler would have made much difference bar better quality verbals. The difference is stark at lock 230 kg Eng vs 248 SA. Lawes 2.01, 115 and Itoje 1.95, 115 vs Etzebeth 2.03, 123 and De Jäger 2.06, 125. For all our claims to have 4 world class locks this is something we really need to think about. Back row pretty even Eng 345 (distorted by the 130 kg of Binny) v 342. I think the main difference is that the Boks still see the scrum as an important part of the game while we seem to be looking at it as a necessary evil and putting more emphasis on all round attributes. As far as front fives are concerned I think the Boks are definitely on the right track. [/QUOTE]
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