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[RWC2019][The Final] England vs. South Africa (02/11/2019)
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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 979084" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>Having watched the game again I feel even more than ever that the margin isn't as big as the scoreline implies. That scrum dominance early on.. Garces even went as far as penalizing the England scrum one time where it went down due to Kitshoff slipping and letting go of his bind. Garces has never been very good at blowing the scrum and probably by then the idea that we had an obvious better scrum had stuck in his head despite England coming back strong in that department post substitutions. Damage was done by then and England were chasing which is where our tries came from.</p><p></p><p>Thought on the day the early scrum woes, Youngs and Lawes were England's downfall. That and some of our poorer performers looked to make far less mistakes than in previous games. The scrum being the biggest factor IMO as it translated directly into actual points for us. TBH Eddie should have known better. All 4 SR sides use the scrum as a weapon. Especially the Stormers (and there are how many Stormers in that tight five! Mbonambi, Malherbe, Etzebeth, Kitshoff and Koch is an ex-Stormer). If teams get parity or the ref doesn't blow the scrum its a major arrow we lose. That is part of the reason we've done so poorly under Garces as he tends to blow the scrum in favor of the side in possession no matter what (that and his breakdown laisez faire approach). England just needed to not get so clearly and obviously pommeled early on. Even when they had the ascendancy later on the idea of SA scrum > England scrum was burnt into Garces' mind bar for that one scrum where England clearly and obviously had one over us.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 979084, member: 39190"] Having watched the game again I feel even more than ever that the margin isn't as big as the scoreline implies. That scrum dominance early on.. Garces even went as far as penalizing the England scrum one time where it went down due to Kitshoff slipping and letting go of his bind. Garces has never been very good at blowing the scrum and probably by then the idea that we had an obvious better scrum had stuck in his head despite England coming back strong in that department post substitutions. Damage was done by then and England were chasing which is where our tries came from. Thought on the day the early scrum woes, Youngs and Lawes were England's downfall. That and some of our poorer performers looked to make far less mistakes than in previous games. The scrum being the biggest factor IMO as it translated directly into actual points for us. TBH Eddie should have known better. All 4 SR sides use the scrum as a weapon. Especially the Stormers (and there are how many Stormers in that tight five! Mbonambi, Malherbe, Etzebeth, Kitshoff and Koch is an ex-Stormer). If teams get parity or the ref doesn't blow the scrum its a major arrow we lose. That is part of the reason we've done so poorly under Garces as he tends to blow the scrum in favor of the side in possession no matter what (that and his breakdown laisez faire approach). England just needed to not get so clearly and obviously pommeled early on. Even when they had the ascendancy later on the idea of SA scrum > England scrum was burnt into Garces' mind bar for that one scrum where England clearly and obviously had one over us. [/QUOTE]
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