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Santiago Phelan: the worst international selector?
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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 521410" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>You make a good point. Phelan is selecting players who won't be available in 2015, or would be unlikely to be. I think teams should always select an older player if they are better, but if the younger player and the older player are as good then it is better to opt for the younger player and Phelan hasn't done this.</p><p></p><p>Ayerza is at least as good as Roncero now. Roncero is 35 years old and retiring after these matches whilst Marcos Ayerza will be 32 by the 2015 World Cup and likely to be the first choice so why is he being made to wait?</p><p></p><p>Guinazu is 30 and is a pretty crap player to be honest, the other options aren't great but it would be better to give a youngster some experience rather than a very average 30 year old journeyman.</p><p></p><p>Other players such as FarÃas Cabello (33 and also retiring after these matches) and Galindo (30) aren't much better (especially considering their respective fitness problems) than some of the younger options like Leonardo Senatore, Tomás Leonardi and Tomás de la Vega. </p><p></p><p>Leguizamon should push one of them out though by the end of the tournament. But for the next match, South Africa should have a considerable fitness and speed advantage over the Argentine back row.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. Phelan's selection looks like it is trying to contain the Springboks not trying to defeat them.</p><p></p><p>I disagree about the November tests being a better selection, this isn't just for this match, but throughout Phelan's time in charge he has been a poor selector.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You say that de la Vega has no offensive game, but Galindo is one of the quietest players with ball in hand there is. I agree that de la Vega is very green, but he has potential and did well in his chance against France (especially with tackling and slowing opposition ball down) to deserve an opportunity.</p><p></p><p>I think it would have been a good idea to start him and keep an older more experienced player on the bench in case he is struggling to step up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe in a position like centre it might be better to start off with a player who is better defensively. But on the wing, surely it is better to play a player who can score more tries. Imhoff scored in both the matches against Stade Français, has scored more tries in one season for Racing than Camacho has in three seasons with Harlequins and Exeter, and has scored more than Camacho for the Pumas in less matches.</p><p></p><p>I question whether playing a slightly better defensive winger will make a telling difference. But leaving out the best try scorer, could do.</p><p></p><p>It reminds when Steve Hansen selected Tom Shanklin (who with respect was a much better centre than winger) ahead of Shane Williams on the wing back in 2002.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 521410, member: 48703"] You make a good point. Phelan is selecting players who won't be available in 2015, or would be unlikely to be. I think teams should always select an older player if they are better, but if the younger player and the older player are as good then it is better to opt for the younger player and Phelan hasn't done this. Ayerza is at least as good as Roncero now. Roncero is 35 years old and retiring after these matches whilst Marcos Ayerza will be 32 by the 2015 World Cup and likely to be the first choice so why is he being made to wait? Guinazu is 30 and is a pretty crap player to be honest, the other options aren't great but it would be better to give a youngster some experience rather than a very average 30 year old journeyman. Other players such as FarÃas Cabello (33 and also retiring after these matches) and Galindo (30) aren't much better (especially considering their respective fitness problems) than some of the younger options like Leonardo Senatore, Tomás Leonardi and Tomás de la Vega. Leguizamon should push one of them out though by the end of the tournament. But for the next match, South Africa should have a considerable fitness and speed advantage over the Argentine back row. Exactly. Phelan's selection looks like it is trying to contain the Springboks not trying to defeat them. I disagree about the November tests being a better selection, this isn't just for this match, but throughout Phelan's time in charge he has been a poor selector. You say that de la Vega has no offensive game, but Galindo is one of the quietest players with ball in hand there is. I agree that de la Vega is very green, but he has potential and did well in his chance against France (especially with tackling and slowing opposition ball down) to deserve an opportunity. I think it would have been a good idea to start him and keep an older more experienced player on the bench in case he is struggling to step up. Maybe in a position like centre it might be better to start off with a player who is better defensively. But on the wing, surely it is better to play a player who can score more tries. Imhoff scored in both the matches against Stade Français, has scored more tries in one season for Racing than Camacho has in three seasons with Harlequins and Exeter, and has scored more than Camacho for the Pumas in less matches. I question whether playing a slightly better defensive winger will make a telling difference. But leaving out the best try scorer, could do. It reminds when Steve Hansen selected Tom Shanklin (who with respect was a much better centre than winger) ahead of Shane Williams on the wing back in 2002. [/QUOTE]
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