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Second Test: Australia vs. British and Irish Lions (29/06/13)
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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 580815" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>Yes, he will do much more work than he used to, and did well in the 6 Nations, especially in the Scotland game. And as I said before, he's passable and hasn't been a liability for Wales recently and in fact made as many tackles as Cole in the 6 Nations. Anyway, I'm not that bothered, if you want to judge your props on tackle counts and keep starting Marler and Vunipola ahead of Corbisiero I would be more than happy.</p><p></p><p>I will be bothered though if the Lions are stupid enough to make the same mistake they made in 2009 1st Test, and made again in taking the best scrummagers off in the 1st Test, and starting a worse scrummager than is available for the 2nd, especially with a NH ref for the 3rd Test. Coincidentally btw, the Lions have been on top of the scoreboard in every match Adam has played for the Lions in 2009 and 2013, and come off worse when he isn't.</p><p></p><p>Curiously I don't France being too bothered about Mas not offering much, Ireland learnt their lesson after the Buckley years and have settled on Ross. But it is the English who seem to have the problem and judge props on tackle counts. And hence why they have had scrum issues 2 years running in losses against Wales in the 6 Nations now, whilst France and Ireland both were the sides who held up best.</p><p></p><p>As for this discussion of front rows, the scrum won more points than it lost. 9 points from scrum, 3 from a maul, and 3 from an attacking play with no tries. Cementball tactics that don't work against Australia aren't getting enough criticism. The forwards are doing a decent enough job, it's the backs that are under-performing. If you want your tighthead prop to make more metres, fly in Tony Buckley.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 580815, member: 48703"] Yes, he will do much more work than he used to, and did well in the 6 Nations, especially in the Scotland game. And as I said before, he's passable and hasn't been a liability for Wales recently and in fact made as many tackles as Cole in the 6 Nations. Anyway, I'm not that bothered, if you want to judge your props on tackle counts and keep starting Marler and Vunipola ahead of Corbisiero I would be more than happy. I will be bothered though if the Lions are stupid enough to make the same mistake they made in 2009 1st Test, and made again in taking the best scrummagers off in the 1st Test, and starting a worse scrummager than is available for the 2nd, especially with a NH ref for the 3rd Test. Coincidentally btw, the Lions have been on top of the scoreboard in every match Adam has played for the Lions in 2009 and 2013, and come off worse when he isn't. Curiously I don't France being too bothered about Mas not offering much, Ireland learnt their lesson after the Buckley years and have settled on Ross. But it is the English who seem to have the problem and judge props on tackle counts. And hence why they have had scrum issues 2 years running in losses against Wales in the 6 Nations now, whilst France and Ireland both were the sides who held up best. As for this discussion of front rows, the scrum won more points than it lost. 9 points from scrum, 3 from a maul, and 3 from an attacking play with no tries. Cementball tactics that don't work against Australia aren't getting enough criticism. The forwards are doing a decent enough job, it's the backs that are under-performing. If you want your tighthead prop to make more metres, fly in Tony Buckley. [/QUOTE]
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