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<blockquote data-quote="Melhor Time" data-source="post: 116822"><p>I said 'All the talk of NZ having talent to burn could only <u>scrape home</u> wins against Argentina and Ireland.' scrape home doesn-t constitute playing -at home-.....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, ignore it. The NZ team is similar to what will play in the World Cup. All players will certainly make the 30, excluding injured players of course. </p><p></p><p>15 MacDonald, 14 Rokocoko, 13 Smith, 12 McAlistair, 11 Sivivatu, 10 Carter, 9 Weepu, 8 So-oialo, 7 McCaw, 6 Collins, 5 Williams, 4 Ryan, 3 Hayman, 2 Oliver, 1 Woodcock</p><p> </p><p>All bar Ryan, who is injured, are going to the World Cup and most will be in the starting XV. In contrast that French team is a lot different to the team that won the 6 Nations and the team that is going to play in the World Cup. </p><p></p><p>Team that lost 47-3 to NZ on the left. Team that is now playing on the right in bold.</p><p></p><p>1 Marconnet <strong>Milloud</strong> </p><p>2 Szarzewski <strong>Ibañez</strong> </p><p>3 de Villiers <strong>de Villiers / Mas</strong></p><p>4 Pelous <strong>Nallet</strong></p><p>5 Papé <strong>Thion</strong></p><p>6 Dusautoir <strong>Betsen</strong></p><p>7 Bonnaire <strong>Bonnaire</strong></p><p>8 Vermeulen <strong>Chabal / Harinordoquy / Vermeulen</strong> </p><p>9 Yachvili <strong>Mignoni</strong> </p><p>10 Traille <strong>Beauxis / Skrela</strong> </p><p>11 Dominici <strong>Dominici</strong></p><p>12 Jauzion <strong>Jauzion</strong> </p><p>13 Fritz <strong>Marty</strong> </p><p>14 Rougerie <strong>Heymans / Clerc</strong></p><p>15 Laharrague <strong>Poitrenaud</strong></p><p></p><p>The differences are phenomenal. Its a maximum of 5 players from that game now making the first choice French side. That French team that NZ smashed was certinaly not the team that is now playing and won the 6N..... :cheers: </p><p></p><p>You can say I'm talking bullshit. But perhaps I know my rugby? :bleh!: </p><p></p><p>NZ are excellent, everyone knows this but their strngthes are set to be overturned. McCaw's cheating over the past 4 years is now falling through as he continously gets penalised (for doing the same things he has always done but never got penalised for) and he is getting frequent yellow cards. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>France lose matches when they are pushed around, thats no secret. England did it in the 6N, Scotland did it in 2006, Argentina in 2004, and NZ did it in 2006. France have responded by selecting Milloud and Ibanez as their first choice players (ahead of flashy players esp Szarzewski) and using a great scrumager, Nicolas Mas in some of the 6N matches. France were just as good as NZ in the scrums against Wales. </p><p></p><p>In terms of the rest, its best to not say such things when you don-t know who the French players are. You can say NZ will win as long as you like but you should investigate different challenging teams first to get a better understanding of the World Cup. Everyone knows what to expect from NZ. The same is not true for South Africa and certainly not for France. Suggesting they are going to lose because NZ recorded big wins in 2006 over both countries is guess work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Melhor Time, post: 116822"] I said 'All the talk of NZ having talent to burn could only [u]scrape home[/u] wins against Argentina and Ireland.' scrape home doesn-t constitute playing -at home-..... Yes, ignore it. The NZ team is similar to what will play in the World Cup. All players will certainly make the 30, excluding injured players of course. 15 MacDonald, 14 Rokocoko, 13 Smith, 12 McAlistair, 11 Sivivatu, 10 Carter, 9 Weepu, 8 So-oialo, 7 McCaw, 6 Collins, 5 Williams, 4 Ryan, 3 Hayman, 2 Oliver, 1 Woodcock All bar Ryan, who is injured, are going to the World Cup and most will be in the starting XV. In contrast that French team is a lot different to the team that won the 6 Nations and the team that is going to play in the World Cup. Team that lost 47-3 to NZ on the left. Team that is now playing on the right in bold. 1 Marconnet [b]Milloud[/b] 2 Szarzewski [b]Ibañez[/b] 3 de Villiers [b]de Villiers / Mas[/b] 4 Pelous [b]Nallet[/b] 5 Papé [b]Thion[/b] 6 Dusautoir [b]Betsen[/b] 7 Bonnaire [b]Bonnaire[/b] 8 Vermeulen [b]Chabal / Harinordoquy / Vermeulen[/b] 9 Yachvili [b]Mignoni[/b] 10 Traille [b]Beauxis / Skrela[/b] 11 Dominici [b]Dominici[/b] 12 Jauzion [b]Jauzion[/b] 13 Fritz [b]Marty[/b] 14 Rougerie [b]Heymans / Clerc[/b] 15 Laharrague [b]Poitrenaud[/b] The differences are phenomenal. Its a maximum of 5 players from that game now making the first choice French side. That French team that NZ smashed was certinaly not the team that is now playing and won the 6N..... :cheers: You can say I'm talking bullshit. But perhaps I know my rugby? :bleh!: NZ are excellent, everyone knows this but their strngthes are set to be overturned. McCaw's cheating over the past 4 years is now falling through as he continously gets penalised (for doing the same things he has always done but never got penalised for) and he is getting frequent yellow cards. France lose matches when they are pushed around, thats no secret. England did it in the 6N, Scotland did it in 2006, Argentina in 2004, and NZ did it in 2006. France have responded by selecting Milloud and Ibanez as their first choice players (ahead of flashy players esp Szarzewski) and using a great scrumager, Nicolas Mas in some of the 6N matches. France were just as good as NZ in the scrums against Wales. In terms of the rest, its best to not say such things when you don-t know who the French players are. You can say NZ will win as long as you like but you should investigate different challenging teams first to get a better understanding of the World Cup. Everyone knows what to expect from NZ. The same is not true for South Africa and certainly not for France. Suggesting they are going to lose because NZ recorded big wins in 2006 over both countries is guess work. [/QUOTE]
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