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<blockquote data-quote="Prestwick" data-source="post: 177781"><p>No, I'm not saying its the RFU vicimising smaller clubs like Saracens & Saints, its an ingrained culture in the coaches that you <em>must</em> pick from a holy trinity of clubs (i.e. Tigers, Wasps & Bath). Any idiot who supports Worcester, Saints, Irish, Saracens and Sale would be able to tell you this. More worryingly, Gloucester have seemed to have seriously fallen out of favour with none of their home grown and cultivated players being picked (Vainikolo & Balshaw do not count as they are recent signings).</p><p></p><p>But hey? What do I know? What do Mite & Webby know? What, indeed, does any fan outside of Tigers, Wasps & Bath know?! Please, Stevie boy, fill us in on what we have been missing these past eight years! We'd love to know the real reason why the likes of Anthony Allen, Simpson-Daniel, Ryan Lamb, Dylan Hartley and a whole host of other on form and talented England players who play outside of Tigers, Wasps and Bath aren't playing for England! Seriously, I'd love to know.</p><p></p><p>If you think that player selection in <em>any</em> English national sport is fair, you are seriously in need of an education in NH rugby. In Rugby, you get selected if you play reasonably well for Tigers, Wasps and Bath. In Cricket you get selected if you play for Yorkshire, Middlesex and possibly another county like Essex. End of story. Finito. Get with the program. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>No, I'm saying that it'd be unfair to compare Russell's CV with Scarborough's because of the lop-sided way England players are selected. You haven't answered my queries about Russell's defensive frailties which I have seen several times this season. Why are you even being weird over Russell and Scarborugh?! I love both players and both are of international quality. I'm sure ol' Percy will be looking forward to facing Scabs again if Sarries and Perpignan meet in the "laid back" HEC final by the way! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>*sigh* Stevie, the point is that higher NH wages attract the SH players but because of the premium SH players tend to attract, they also have higher expectations and standards to which they have to adhere to and thus, just as much (if not more) pressure to perform at their best. Thus, there is no evidence to point to back your argument!</p><p></p><p>In the end Stevie, you haven't actually explained what exactly it is you mean by "laid back". All you've done is tear your hair out pedantically over the use of the word "more", ignore what past and present illustrious SH players have said about NH rugby and arguing the toss over minute differences in wages between, say, Chris Jack and Butch James for example. </p><p></p><p>Now, repeat after me: "What I mean by "laid back" is...*insert explaination here*" </p><p></p><p>If you don't, your argument as it stands, is utter ******** mate. Seriously Stevie, I don't mean to keep owning you here, but you seriously need to explain your point rather than just say "laid back" and then start jumping up and down when people point out the obvious! :lol:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prestwick, post: 177781"] No, I'm not saying its the RFU vicimising smaller clubs like Saracens & Saints, its an ingrained culture in the coaches that you [i]must[/i] pick from a holy trinity of clubs (i.e. Tigers, Wasps & Bath). Any idiot who supports Worcester, Saints, Irish, Saracens and Sale would be able to tell you this. More worryingly, Gloucester have seemed to have seriously fallen out of favour with none of their home grown and cultivated players being picked (Vainikolo & Balshaw do not count as they are recent signings). But hey? What do I know? What do Mite & Webby know? What, indeed, does any fan outside of Tigers, Wasps & Bath know?! Please, Stevie boy, fill us in on what we have been missing these past eight years! We'd love to know the real reason why the likes of Anthony Allen, Simpson-Daniel, Ryan Lamb, Dylan Hartley and a whole host of other on form and talented England players who play outside of Tigers, Wasps and Bath aren't playing for England! Seriously, I'd love to know. If you think that player selection in [i]any[/i] English national sport is fair, you are seriously in need of an education in NH rugby. In Rugby, you get selected if you play reasonably well for Tigers, Wasps and Bath. In Cricket you get selected if you play for Yorkshire, Middlesex and possibly another county like Essex. End of story. Finito. Get with the program. No, I'm saying that it'd be unfair to compare Russell's CV with Scarborough's because of the lop-sided way England players are selected. You haven't answered my queries about Russell's defensive frailties which I have seen several times this season. Why are you even being weird over Russell and Scarborugh?! I love both players and both are of international quality. I'm sure ol' Percy will be looking forward to facing Scabs again if Sarries and Perpignan meet in the "laid back" HEC final by the way! :P *sigh* Stevie, the point is that higher NH wages attract the SH players but because of the premium SH players tend to attract, they also have higher expectations and standards to which they have to adhere to and thus, just as much (if not more) pressure to perform at their best. Thus, there is no evidence to point to back your argument! In the end Stevie, you haven't actually explained what exactly it is you mean by "laid back". All you've done is tear your hair out pedantically over the use of the word "more", ignore what past and present illustrious SH players have said about NH rugby and arguing the toss over minute differences in wages between, say, Chris Jack and Butch James for example. Now, repeat after me: "What I mean by "laid back" is...*insert explaination here*" If you don't, your argument as it stands, is utter ******** mate. Seriously Stevie, I don't mean to keep owning you here, but you seriously need to explain your point rather than just say "laid back" and then start jumping up and down when people point out the obvious! :lol: [/QUOTE]
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