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<blockquote data-quote="SimonG" data-source="post: 623271" data-attributes="member: 71048"><p>Hmm..well Australia doesn't have a class system so I wouldn't use "middle class" in regards to sport there. To get to the root of the sports and identity the difference in behaviour, Rugby and cricket are the two middle class British colonial games that are played among the same 5 or 6 nations (the anomaly being France as they adopted it willingly)..and both sports originate among upper class gentry, the genteel, polite, well mannered folk..."jolly good shot old boy". This tradition of good etiquette has been maintained in both sports. Football on the other hand is rooted in the working class; tribalism, passionate, it's the everyman game. This is reflected in the chants, the songs, the flags, the banners, the constant cheering for your own team and booing of the opposition (if Wayne Rooney is taking a penalty he would receive dogs abuse as he's preparing, in Rugby there would be a respectful silence). Also in football the fans are segregated (home fans, away fans)..you don't get that in most other sports (in the US you don't get any away fans). </p><p></p><p>Going to Rugby or cricket is like a day out at the beach. I commented on the lack of atmosphere or intense rivalry in Rugby, but it would appear that many in the sport like it that way. People chatter amongst themselves (also fans of both teams mingle), bring flasks, sandwiches, perhaps a newspaper (the folks that are at the cricket often have those), people are usually eating something, drinking beer in plastic cups. None of this is evident in football..people are too entrenched in the game, the back and forth nature of the sport..and there are very few stoppages. Bar the half time break you don't get time to partake in other activities. </p><p></p><p>If there ain't any of this in Rugby league or AFL I would say its because neither have the tradition of football. Certainly rugby league in England...it's similarly working class, but there ain't the banners, the songs, chants, flags...and while there is rivalry it's a parochial game played amongst themselves so it doesnt have the varying regional hatred. Similarly AFL is predominantly a state of Victoria game, always playing the neighbours.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SimonG, post: 623271, member: 71048"] Hmm..well Australia doesn't have a class system so I wouldn't use "middle class" in regards to sport there. To get to the root of the sports and identity the difference in behaviour, Rugby and cricket are the two middle class British colonial games that are played among the same 5 or 6 nations (the anomaly being France as they adopted it willingly)..and both sports originate among upper class gentry, the genteel, polite, well mannered folk..."jolly good shot old boy". This tradition of good etiquette has been maintained in both sports. Football on the other hand is rooted in the working class; tribalism, passionate, it's the everyman game. This is reflected in the chants, the songs, the flags, the banners, the constant cheering for your own team and booing of the opposition (if Wayne Rooney is taking a penalty he would receive dogs abuse as he's preparing, in Rugby there would be a respectful silence). Also in football the fans are segregated (home fans, away fans)..you don't get that in most other sports (in the US you don't get any away fans). Going to Rugby or cricket is like a day out at the beach. I commented on the lack of atmosphere or intense rivalry in Rugby, but it would appear that many in the sport like it that way. People chatter amongst themselves (also fans of both teams mingle), bring flasks, sandwiches, perhaps a newspaper (the folks that are at the cricket often have those), people are usually eating something, drinking beer in plastic cups. None of this is evident in football..people are too entrenched in the game, the back and forth nature of the sport..and there are very few stoppages. Bar the half time break you don't get time to partake in other activities. If there ain't any of this in Rugby league or AFL I would say its because neither have the tradition of football. Certainly rugby league in England...it's similarly working class, but there ain't the banners, the songs, chants, flags...and while there is rivalry it's a parochial game played amongst themselves so it doesnt have the varying regional hatred. Similarly AFL is predominantly a state of Victoria game, always playing the neighbours. [/QUOTE]
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