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<blockquote data-quote="RoosTah" data-source="post: 625420" data-attributes="member: 12207"><p>It does sound like a contradiction doesn't it? But it's true, which is why a lot of Australians like me can't help but conclude that there is an almost violence inducing element to the nature of the sport itself. How else to you explain the lack of violence in the quintessential working-mans game of Rugby League in Australia compared with the middle class euro-wannabe white collar tossers who watch soccer here? It's baffling. I mean, I sorta get it with the Western Sydney crowd, as they're a little less white collar, but the Sydney FC guys have been carrying on just as bad lately, and they're represent some of the wealthiest parts of Sydney.</p><p></p><p>And whilst all the games are originally English, soccer in Australia is viewed as almost a symbol of the European Union. The people who follow it all carry on about how their patronage of the game is a cultural pursuit and think that it makes them sophisticated. They have the most pompous attitude of any set of fans in the country, and they don't seem to realise the irony of their position.</p><p></p><p>Interestingly enough, Rugby isn't viewed as particularly English and neither is League. Perhaps it's because Australia has driven many of the rule changes that have transformed both games we consider them just as much Australian inventions as English ones. Soccer has never really been 'our' game though - it's always been a very foreign pursuit for those not tough enough for contact sport.</p><p></p><p>Also, as getting back to class - I'd argue that Australian Football is even more quintessentially working class in its history. Indeed, the game was so anti-establishment and anti-authority that they initially rejected the use of referees out of a distrust for authority. Instead they agreed that the captains of both sides would jointly perform the function (the idea being you had to be fair to prevent reprisals.).</p><p></p><p>Lastly, why are you writing from an English perspective? You're Irish aren't you? Half my family is Irish and most of them I know call the game 'soccer' like we do and reckon it's too pommy to get into (yet strangely still don't mind Rugby - even if Gaelic Footy is their first love).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RoosTah, post: 625420, member: 12207"] It does sound like a contradiction doesn't it? But it's true, which is why a lot of Australians like me can't help but conclude that there is an almost violence inducing element to the nature of the sport itself. How else to you explain the lack of violence in the quintessential working-mans game of Rugby League in Australia compared with the middle class euro-wannabe white collar tossers who watch soccer here? It's baffling. I mean, I sorta get it with the Western Sydney crowd, as they're a little less white collar, but the Sydney FC guys have been carrying on just as bad lately, and they're represent some of the wealthiest parts of Sydney. And whilst all the games are originally English, soccer in Australia is viewed as almost a symbol of the European Union. The people who follow it all carry on about how their patronage of the game is a cultural pursuit and think that it makes them sophisticated. They have the most pompous attitude of any set of fans in the country, and they don't seem to realise the irony of their position. Interestingly enough, Rugby isn't viewed as particularly English and neither is League. Perhaps it's because Australia has driven many of the rule changes that have transformed both games we consider them just as much Australian inventions as English ones. Soccer has never really been 'our' game though - it's always been a very foreign pursuit for those not tough enough for contact sport. Also, as getting back to class - I'd argue that Australian Football is even more quintessentially working class in its history. Indeed, the game was so anti-establishment and anti-authority that they initially rejected the use of referees out of a distrust for authority. Instead they agreed that the captains of both sides would jointly perform the function (the idea being you had to be fair to prevent reprisals.). Lastly, why are you writing from an English perspective? You're Irish aren't you? Half my family is Irish and most of them I know call the game 'soccer' like we do and reckon it's too pommy to get into (yet strangely still don't mind Rugby - even if Gaelic Footy is their first love). [/QUOTE]
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