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Springbok

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Played like the Super 12....
Top 4 wil play in Playoffs
But...the Bottom 2 will be rellegated to the 1st Division!

New Champions Cup 12 Premier

Team Rating
Leicester 81
Brumbies 81
London Wasps 80
Toulouse 80
Crusaders 79
Munster 78
Biarritz 77
Gloucester 77
Blues 77
Bulls 77
Stormers 76
Bourgoin 74

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Okay...the top 2 of this division will be promoted to the Premier Division and the bottom 2 will be relegated to the 2nd division.

New Champions Cup 12 1st Division
Team Rating
Paris 73
Perpignan 72
Warratahs 72
Bath 71
Llanelli 71
Highlanders 68
Edinburgh 67
Chiefs 67
Newcastle 66
Northampton 65
Sharks 64
Richmond 63
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Top 2 will be promoted to the 1st division

New Champions Cup 12 2nd Division
Team Rating
Reds 63
Castres 60
Newport 58
Cats 58
Ulster 57
Hurricanes 55
Cardiff 54
Glasgow 52
Brescia 51
Neath-Swansea 51
Treviso 48
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What do you guys think?
Could be interesting!
 
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Gandalf

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Definately not a bad idea, let's hope the world league is setup like this in r2005!!]
We might just be lucky?

Can't believe the 'canes are rated that shite! What the hell?

Oh dear EA...
 
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Springbok

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I don't understand it either!
The Cats should be down there...however they won the Bulls this weekend! Not a good start for my team! :s Maybe the bulls can put it together friday against the Brumbies...They should play Habanna at Centre! He's not a wing!!!!!!

O'well!
The Canes should at least be in the 70's!!!!!
Don't know what these guys were thinking!!!
 
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Los Lover

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yeah, no that's good, but, um...well you've accidently put **** NH teams with higher stats than international laden teams like the Blues. This is just unrealistic.

Can you tell me some of your favourite world class Leicester players are?

Here are mine from the Blues:

Saimone Taumopeau (AB)
Mealamu (AB)
Ali Williams (AB)
Jeremy Kaino (AB)
X Rush (AB and Barbarians last year)
Daniel Braid (AB)
Carlos Spencer (AB - held vice captaincy at various times)
Sam Tuitupou (AB)
Ben Atiga (AB)
Luke McAllister (AB)
Doug Howlett (AB)
Joe Rokocoko (AB)
Mils Muliaina (AB)
Tony Woodcock (AB)

Off the top of my head, that's fourteen All Blacks.

Why do you NH guys continue to illogically live in la la land?

Oh here are some crusaders players:

Casey Laulala (AB)
Andrew Merhtens (AB) - ace goalkicker
Daniel Carter (AB) - ace goalkicker
Aaron Mauger (AB)
Marika Vuinbaka (Fiji)
Delasau (yep, that's right)
Richard McCaw (the best openside in the world hands down...and AB)
Reuben Thorne (was AB Captain)
Mose Tuiali'i (AB - yet loaned to the Crusaders by Blues cause didn't even need him - Leicester would have him as their star forward and explosive try scoring machine...here - he's just another superstar)
Justin Marshall (AB)
Ben Blair (Has been AB - ace goalkicker)
Leon MacDonald has returned home (was an AB) - he warmed the bench..game one on the weekend. he would be start most of the NH sides w/out doubt.
Chris Jack (AB - world's best lock w/ Matfield)
Greg Somerville (AB)
Corey Flynn (AB)
Tony Koonwayoo (NZ colt - electric speed - loaned from Blues)
Caleb Ralph (AB recently)
Rico Gear (AB and ex-sevens star - devastating speed and step)

Hell, that's 17 internationals off the top of my head!

I could go on of course.....

Brumbies: Gregan, Larkham, Mortlock, Giteau, Rathbone, Gerrard, Fava, Samo, Smith, Paul, Darwin etc etc...ALL internationals..(except Fava).

Now give me the leicester starting line-up in the last match.....I'm sure they could blow these guys off the park!

Not.



England have lost one or two players, who were v good, and have plummeted in ability as a result. This is a damning endightment of their depth....or more specifically their lack of it.

Can't see the wood for the trees these f***ing NH'ers.
 
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sanzar

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Originally posted by Los Lover@Mar 1 2005, 01:36 AM
yeah, no that's good, but, um...well you've accidently put **** NH teams with higher stats than international laden teams like the Blues. This is just unrealistic.

Can you tell me some of your favourite world class Leicester players are?

Here are mine from the Blues:

Saimone Taumopeau (AB)
Mealamu (AB)
Ali Williams (AB)
Jeremy Kaino (AB)
X Rush (AB and Barbarians last year)
Daniel Braid (AB)
Carlos Spencer (AB - held vice captaincy at various times)
Sam Tuitupou (AB)
Ben Atiga (AB)
Luke McAllister (AB)
Doug Howlett (AB)
Joe Rokocoko (AB)
Mils Muliaina (AB)
Tony Woodcock (AB)

Off the top of my head, that's fourteen All Blacks.

Why do you NH guys continue to illogically live in la la land?

Oh here are some crusaders players:

Casey Laulala (AB)
Andrew Merhtens (AB) - ace goalkicker
Daniel Carter (AB) - ace goalkicker
Aaron Mauger (AB)
Marika Vuinbaka (Fiji)
Delasau (yep, that's right)
Richard McCaw (the best openside in the world hands down...and AB)
Reuben Thorne (was AB Captain)
Mose Tuiali'i (AB - yet loaned to the Crusaders by Blues cause didn't even need him - Leinster would have him as their star forward and explosive try scoring machine...here - he's just another superstar)
Justin Marshall (AB)
Ben Blair (Has been AB - ace goalkicker)
Leon MacDonald has returned home (was an AB) - he warmed the bench..game one on the weekend. he would be start most of the NH sides w/out doubt.
Chris Jack (AB - world's best lock w/ Matfield)
Greg Somerville (AB)
Corey Flynn (AB)
Tony Koonwayoo (NZ colt - electric speed - loaned from Blues)
Caleb Ralph (AB recently)
Rico Gear (AB and ex-sevens star - devastating speed and step)

Hell, that's 17 internationals off the top of my head!

I could go on of course.....

Brumbies: Gregan, Larkham, Mortlock, Giteau, Rathbone, Gerrard, Fava, Samo, Smith, Paul, Darwin etc etc...ALL internationals..(except Fava).

Now give me the leinster starting line-up in the last match.....I'm sure they could blow these guys off the park!

Not.



England have lost one or two players, who were v good, and have plummeted in ability as a result. This is a damning endightment of their depth....or more specifically their lack of it.

Can't see the wood for the trees these f***ing NH'ers.


Quality post with brilliant points! Good stuff
 
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Los Lover

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Sorry! I take it all back.....

Oh. no sorry, I take back 1 thing

Ben Blair is now playing for the Highlanders - he would be just about Leicester's best player and the Crusaders don't even need him in their squad of 2o-odd players..

hahahahaha!

Oh can you feel that?
 
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Los Lover

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Thanks Sanzar!

Now off to bed so I can watch the Black Caps hopefully pull out an upset and win this f***ing one dayer in a few hours time.

Cher!
 
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Springbok

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I'm a SH guy myself...I just took the Ratings of the actual Rugby 2005 game and Placed the teams acordingly.

If I take the ratings into account...this is what the Divisions should look like. I don't agree with most of it but hey....thats EA for you!
 
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Los Lover

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Originally posted by Springbok@Mar 1 2005, 02:45 AM
I'm a SH guy myself...I just took the Ratings of the actual Rugby 2005 game and Placed the teams acordingly.

If I take the ratings into account...this is what the Divisions should look like. I don't agree with most of it but hey....thats EA for you!


Christ I'm silly sometimes.

In arguably my finest post (not a huge feat to achieve) I addressed "Springbok" as a NHer......crumbs!

Sorry mate!

But my point stands for sure to NHers - especially if that's the stats.

Come on EA - stop licking England's ass.
 
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Springbok

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No Probs Los Lover!


But is the actual team stats!!


The Club ratings I can deal with...but what really gets me is England's rating in the game!!! The ratings are as follows....

Ranked Team Rating
1 England 92
2 New Zealand 91
3 Australia 89
4 South Africa 88
5 France 86
6 Barbarians 85
7 Ireland 84
8 Wales 82
8 Pacific Isles 82
9 Argentina 80
10 Australia A 79
11 NZ Maori 76
12 Italy 75
13 Samoa 74
13 Scotland 74
14 Fiji 70
15 Tonga 61
16 Canada 60
17 Japan 48
18 USA 47
19 Romania 46
20 Georgia 44
21 Uruguay 42
22 Namibia 41
23 Russia 40
23 Spain 40
 
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Gandalf

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Yeah los lover!! What were you thinkin?? I reckon all of us who posted here are sh's? Have you been boozin?

Ha, is ben blair such an ace kicker, i always thought he was more of a running player similar to russel? Haven't watched much npc, perhaps i missed blair's kicking in action...
 
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Los Lover

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Mmmmmm - I'd never looked at that properly Springbok!

I have a few issues too:

- Obviously the England stat is silly - but I don't mind the challenge as I loathe them...any team that does a lap of homour after drawing a test match at home can rightfully be ashamed of themselves.

- NZ Maori - 76? ha! They would put the f***ing pain on Leicester man! (81)
If the maori were told this during mtion capture there would be a cut scene of someone pulling a brown eye!

- Aus "a"? - didn't know about this?

Locksley!!!!

Locksley!!!!!!!

Stop playing relentless tri nations comps on hard and come and tell us who is in the Aus "A" team - I'm curious george.
 
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Los Lover

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Originally posted by Gandalf@Mar 1 2005, 03:12 AM
Yeah los lover!! What were you thinkin?? I reckon all of us who posted here are sh's? Have you been boozin?

Ha, is ben blair such an ace kicker, i always thought he was more of a running player similar to russel? Haven't watched much npc, perhaps i missed blair's kicking in action...
Yeah, crumbs, I know!!

There are definitely NHers lurking - they're like vegetarian sharks.

Can Ben Blair kick?
Oh yeah boy! he sure as hell can.
 
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All_Blacks_Hurricanes_Lions_Fan

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Off the Tigers website:BTW not against ne1 just helping the argument
N.Back(ENG)
M.Johnson(ENG)
Murphy(IRE-one of the best fullbacks in the world)
D.Gibson(NZ)
A.Healey(ENG)
H.Ellis(ENG)
S.Rabeni(Fiji)
R.Warren(Samoa)
A.Tuilagi(Samoa)
H.Tuilagi(Samoa)
B.Kay(ENG)
D.Morris(Wales)
E.Taukafa(Tonga)
G.Rowntree(ENG)
L.Moody(ENG)
J.White(ENG)
M.Corry(ENG)
A.Goode(ENG)
O.Smith(ENG)
L.Lloyd(ENG)
Thats 20 current or former internationals out of a squad of 46
heres the link http://www.tigers.co.uk/31_3338.php if anyone does not believe me just click on their faces, im not doing to start a fight but to mearly give th NH fans some more ammunition since they have disapeared.
 
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Springbok

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Yeah I'm pretty sure the NZ Maori would have done somthing physical to convince the EA staff that they should actually be rated in the 80's!

Don't know why Aus - A is in there...doesn't really make any sence!

Where is the British Isles though?
Can't remember seing them there!
 
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Gandalf

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Off the Tigers website:BTW not against ne1 just helping the argument
N.Back(ENG)
M.Johnson(ENG)
Murphy(IRE-one of the best fullbacks in the world)
D.Gibson(NZ)
A.Healey(ENG)
H.Ellis(ENG)
S.Rabeni(Fiji)
R.Warren(Samoa)
A.Tuilagi(Samoa)
H.Tuilagi(Samoa)
B.Kay(ENG)
D.Morris(Wales)
E.Taukafa(Tonga)
G.Rowntree(ENG)
L.Moody(ENG)
J.White(ENG)
M.Corry(ENG)
A.Goode(ENG)
O.Smith(ENG)
L.Lloyd(ENG)
Thats 20 current or former internationals out of a squad of 46[/b]



You know what chaps, that aint such a bad team, but still no match for the real SH powerhouses! Alot of islanders in there don't you think?
 
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Los Lover

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Originally posted by Gandalf@Mar 1 2005, 03:27 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Off the Tigers website:BTW not against ne1 just helping the argument
N.Back(ENG)
M.Johnson(ENG)
Murphy(IRE-one of the best fullbacks in the world)
D.Gibson(NZ)
A.Healey(ENG)
H.Ellis(ENG)
S.Rabeni(Fiji)
R.Warren(Samoa)
A.Tuilagi(Samoa)
H.Tuilagi(Samoa)
B.Kay(ENG)
D.Morris(Wales)
E.Taukafa(Tonga)
G.Rowntree(ENG)
L.Moody(ENG)
J.White(ENG)
M.Corry(ENG)
A.Goode(ENG)
O.Smith(ENG)
L.Lloyd(ENG)
Thats 20 current or former internationals out of a squad of 46



You know what chaps, that aint such a bad team, but still no match for the real SH powerhouses! Alot of islanders in there don't you think? [/b][/quote]
Yes!!!!!



Thank you v, v, v much - I knew a Nher wouldn't post the line-up for scrutiny, but it's good I now have it.

Let's see......

Neil back and M jOhnson are retired from international football (Back's been dropped actually, but the old folks home is beckoning anyway)

D Gibson!! Oh dear god.....he was lame in his prime...nose all twisted up like a f***ing corkscrew. Incredibly boring player! probably rated as an attacking weapon up NTH - the irony!

Healey (haven't seen him turn out for England for a while)

Rabeni (ex-Otago and highlanders player - average down here...but , again, probably explosive up there.)

The Tuilagi brothers wouldn't make the Chiefs squad - no offence.

Taukafa (Tonga) - I guess Southland might want his assistance as a squad reserve for their NPC team.....better check with him.


Rowntree - is he still alive?

Corry and Moody are good. two ticks there.

<<Thats 20 current or former internationals out of a squad of 46>>

No, no. I don't think you understand....the ABs I mentioned are nearly all CURRENT All Blacks.

Get it now?
 
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Gandalf

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Harry Ellis seems to be pretty useful, but yes, he isn't a Sam, Aaron, De Wet, Luke,etc...

I won't even mention Dan Carter! What on earth is he doing, playing full back for the crusaders!!! What a waist!
 
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All_Blacks_Hurricanes_Lions_Fan

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Originally posted by Gandalf@Mar 1 2005, 03:42 AM
Harry Ellis seems to be pretty useful, but yes, he is a Sam, Aaron, De Wet, Luke,etc...

I won't even mention Dan Carter! What on earth is he doing, playing full back for the crusaders!!! What a waist!
Yeah the whole of NZ agrees with you only stupid Robbie Deans dosnt he is suposed to be our first choice 10 WTF is he doing playing 15 yeah dats helps alot....NOT
 
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Handsomebob

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Originally posted by Los Lover+Mar 1 2005, 02:36 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Los Lover @ Mar 1 2005, 02:36 AM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-Gandalf
@Mar 1 2005, 03:27 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE
Off the Tigers website:BTW not against ne1 just helping the argument
N.Back(ENG)
M.Johnson(ENG)
Murphy(IRE-one of the best fullbacks in the world)
D.Gibson(NZ)
A.Healey(ENG)
H.Ellis(ENG)
S.Rabeni(Fiji)
R.Warren(Samoa)
A.Tuilagi(Samoa)
H.Tuilagi(Samoa)
B.Kay(ENG)
D.Morris(Wales)
E.Taukafa(Tonga)
G.Rowntree(ENG)
L.Moody(ENG)
J.White(ENG)
M.Corry(ENG)
A.Goode(ENG)
O.Smith(ENG)
L.Lloyd(ENG)
Thats 20 current or former internationals out of a squad of 46



You know what chaps, that aint such a bad team, but still no match for the real SH powerhouses! Alot of islanders in there don't you think? [/b]
Yes!!!!!



Thank you v, v, v much - I knew a Nher wouldn't post the line-up for scrutiny, but it's good I now have it.

Let's see......

Neil back and M jOhnson are retired from international football (Back's been dropped actually, but the old folks home is beckoning anyway)

D Gibson!! Oh dear god.....he was lame in his prime...nose all twisted up like a f***ing corkscrew. Incredibly boring player! probably rated as an attacking weapon up NTH - the irony!

Healey (haven't seen him turn out for England for a while)

Rabeni (ex-Otago and highlanders player - average down here...but , again, probably explosive up there.)

The Tuilagi brothers wouldn't make the Chiefs squad - no offence.

Taukafa (Tonga) - I guess Southland might want his assistance as a squad reserve for their NPC team.....better check with him.


Rowntree - is he still alive?

Corry and Moody are good. two ticks there.

<<Thats 20 current or former internationals out of a squad of 46>>

No, no. I don't think you understand....the ABs I mentioned are nearly all CURRENT All Blacks.

Get it now? [/b][/quote]
Yeah, right
Now please enlight me with you (so called) NH rugby knowledge and give me your 2 cents on those names too.

Stade Français

ARIAS Julien (France under 21)
AURADOU David (France)
BERGAMASCO Mauro (Italy)
BERGAMASCO Mirko (Italy)
BLIN Mathieu (France A)
BROUZET Olivier (France)
CORLETO Ignacio (Argentina)
DE VILLIERS Pieter (France)
DOMINICI Christophe (France)
FILLOL Jérôme (France u 21)
GLAS Stephane (France)
HERNANDEZ Juan (Argentina)
JAMES Mike (Canada)
LIEBENBERG Brian (France)
MARCONNET Sylvain (France)
MARTIN Rémy (France)
MONI Christophe (France)
PICHOT Augustin (Argentina)
QUESADA Gonzalo (Argentina)
SARAMEA Olivier (France)
SKRELA David (France)

Stade Toulousain

BOUILHOU Jean (France)
BRENNAN Trevor (Ireland)
BRU Yannick (France)
CLERC Vincent (France)
COLLAZO Patrice (France)
ELISSALDE Jean Baptiste (France)
FRITZ Florien (France A and U-21)
GARBAJOSA Xavier (France)
GERARD David (France A)
HASAN Omar (Argentina)
HEYMANS Cédric (France)
JAUZION Yannick (France)
JEANJEAN Nicolas (France)
LABIT Christian (France)
LAMBOLEY Gregory (France)
MAKA Finau (just so you can say we need your SH players)
MAKA Isitolo
MICHALAK Frederic (France)
PELOUS Fabien (France)
POITRENAUD Clement (France)
POUX Jean Bapstiste (France U-21)
SERVAT William (France)
THOMAS Gareth (Wales)

Another question for you, if the almighty all blacks are so powerfull why is that their only World cup win was in 1987.
yeah, i know, it was against france, and yes i know france never won the big game..... but still, i'm not the one claiming that our players are the best ......i'm just saying that some people here just should try to be less biased and more intersted in Rugby in general.
 
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