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<blockquote data-quote="Mrs. Peter Quinn" data-source="post: 582264" data-attributes="member: 12190"><p>This... </p><p></p><p>I said before the game that the lions might very well win, I didn't say I expected us to lose, nor that I wanted us to lose... but I said I didn't agree with the selection. I actively said it's not bias, but the natural result of being a national coach and knowing certain players better. </p><p></p><p>The 23 put in an excellent performance becoming of the lions shirt... does that mean that every single selection was correct, in terms of on merit or on form? Does it mean we won because BOD, Croft, Heaslip etc weren't in the squad? No, of course it doesn't mean that. If you think it does, you need a mental health act assessment. There's no knowing for sure that an entirely English, Irish and Scottish 15 wouldn't have put 60 on Australia (I know, they wouldn't have). The lions still should always be picked on merit, so that supporters from all four nations can see their deserving players on show - while most of us are delighted with the series win, many of us are still legitimately disappointed not to have seen much of our star players - Tuilagi for example got less than 10 minutes in tests, and none with Sexton inside him which is what I really wanted to see. So for me it's not just about results, it's about seeing the players we we want to see and deserve to see.</p><p></p><p>And I just want to echo what Peat said on another thread - I like being able to give opinion on this forum, so being told as we were on that match thread repeatedly to 'Man up and support the lads' is pretty annoying - if we followed that advice every time we disagreed with something, the forum wouldn't exist.</p><p></p><p>Just to note, I'm aware that some reaction was OTT.. but most of it was the usual healthy skepticism you would hope to find on a forum like this, which I think, should be encouraged <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mrs. Peter Quinn, post: 582264, member: 12190"] This... I said before the game that the lions might very well win, I didn't say I expected us to lose, nor that I wanted us to lose... but I said I didn't agree with the selection. I actively said it's not bias, but the natural result of being a national coach and knowing certain players better. The 23 put in an excellent performance becoming of the lions shirt... does that mean that every single selection was correct, in terms of on merit or on form? Does it mean we won because BOD, Croft, Heaslip etc weren't in the squad? No, of course it doesn't mean that. If you think it does, you need a mental health act assessment. There's no knowing for sure that an entirely English, Irish and Scottish 15 wouldn't have put 60 on Australia (I know, they wouldn't have). The lions still should always be picked on merit, so that supporters from all four nations can see their deserving players on show - while most of us are delighted with the series win, many of us are still legitimately disappointed not to have seen much of our star players - Tuilagi for example got less than 10 minutes in tests, and none with Sexton inside him which is what I really wanted to see. So for me it's not just about results, it's about seeing the players we we want to see and deserve to see. And I just want to echo what Peat said on another thread - I like being able to give opinion on this forum, so being told as we were on that match thread repeatedly to 'Man up and support the lads' is pretty annoying - if we followed that advice every time we disagreed with something, the forum wouldn't exist. Just to note, I'm aware that some reaction was OTT.. but most of it was the usual healthy skepticism you would hope to find on a forum like this, which I think, should be encouraged :p [/QUOTE]
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