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<blockquote data-quote="BPM" data-source="post: 1050439" data-attributes="member: 59968"><p>To be fair, I think a lot of it is in jest - certainly when it comes to Tipuric.</p><p></p><p>Re. AWJ, I'm really not sure you're helping your argument when you suggest his performance was 'similar' (based on stats alone) to Itoje's who was demonstrably better. In a way, I think this highlights what many people (myself included) find irritating re. AWJ. His champions are always citing intangible qualities like 'managing the ref' or comment on basic things I'd expect from a test lock like 'he disrupted a maul'.</p><p></p><p>Essentially, it's comparing Itoje's conspicuous influence on the game with AWJ's often inconspicuous contribution. To be clear, I am not saying he is a bad player or had a bad game and he is clearly an influential leader. I'm just trying to explain why many question why he's so highly rated when the main positives are that he does the basics very well and has vast experience to lean on in a leadership role. Whether those things warrant a place in the team is questionable IMO.</p><p></p><p>Does he deserve more respect? Yes. Should he be an automatic pick and captain? No.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BPM, post: 1050439, member: 59968"] To be fair, I think a lot of it is in jest - certainly when it comes to Tipuric. Re. AWJ, I’m really not sure you’re helping your argument when you suggest his performance was ‘similar’ (based on stats alone) to Itoje’s who was demonstrably better. In a way, I think this highlights what many people (myself included) find irritating re. AWJ. His champions are always citing intangible qualities like ‘managing the ref’ or comment on basic things I’d expect from a test lock like ‘he disrupted a maul’. Essentially, it’s comparing Itoje’s conspicuous influence on the game with AWJ’s often inconspicuous contribution. To be clear, I am not saying he is a bad player or had a bad game and he is clearly an influential leader. I’m just trying to explain why many question why he’s so highly rated when the main positives are that he does the basics very well and has vast experience to lean on in a leadership role. Whether those things warrant a place in the team is questionable IMO. Does he deserve more respect? Yes. Should he be an automatic pick and captain? No. [/QUOTE]
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