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Spring Tour:New Zealand vs Ireland - 1st Test. (09/06/2012, 08:35 GMT)
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<blockquote data-quote="admartian" data-source="post: 510306" data-attributes="member: 38996"><p>If we were to ask who we would put at 12, then Nonu would, <strong><em>and has</em></strong> done much much better (see Dagg, Jane and Nonu again in the past, and Weepu also previously for examples as to do doing poorly at Super Rugby but better at AB level). Granted Nonu has experience and commitment (despite being shunned and dropped by selectors multiple times for years!) on his side. </p><p></p><p>Could you imagine SBW staying put if the roles were reversed? <em>You are lying to yourself if you think he would..</em>. </p><p></p><p>He has a hard time committing as it is when the NZRA is <u><strong>clamouring</strong></u> over him,- imagine what he does in the instance that he isn't even included or *gasp* takked about by the media (will never happen) !!?!? </p><p></p><p><em>(Which I'm pretty sure almost happened pre-RWC. Then he kicked a fuss; and publicly pondered his future, and then he got picked, then <strong>suddenly </strong>he decides to stay for one more year. Almost as bad as Lebron, minus the skill...)</em></p><p></p><p>Honestly, I don't think I'm stating anything that is unfair. I don't see why people need to get tied up all over it...</p><p></p><p>To be fair to him, maybe he just needs to get rid of himself of the people around him, and look for the right people rather than agents/managers that care about publicity. But who knows, he might be as a big a douche as everyone makes him out to be...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said before, I think Ellison is at least equivalent to SBW. Plus he doesn't have Cruden and Kahui on either side of him to make him look good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="admartian, post: 510306, member: 38996"] If we were to ask who we would put at 12, then Nonu would, [B][I]and has[/I][/B] done much much better (see Dagg, Jane and Nonu again in the past, and Weepu also previously for examples as to do doing poorly at Super Rugby but better at AB level). Granted Nonu has experience and commitment (despite being shunned and dropped by selectors multiple times for years!) on his side. Could you imagine SBW staying put if the roles were reversed? [I]You are lying to yourself if you think he would..[/I]. He has a hard time committing as it is when the NZRA is [U][B]clamouring[/B][/U] over him,- imagine what he does in the instance that he isn't even included or *gasp* takked about by the media (will never happen) !!?!? [I](Which I'm pretty sure almost happened pre-RWC. Then he kicked a fuss; and publicly pondered his future, and then he got picked, then [B]suddenly [/B]he decides to stay for one more year. Almost as bad as Lebron, minus the skill...)[/I] Honestly, I don't think I'm stating anything that is unfair. I don't see why people need to get tied up all over it... To be fair to him, maybe he just needs to get rid of himself of the people around him, and look for the right people rather than agents/managers that care about publicity. But who knows, he might be as a big a douche as everyone makes him out to be... As I said before, I think Ellison is at least equivalent to SBW. Plus he doesn't have Cruden and Kahui on either side of him to make him look good. [/QUOTE]
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