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<blockquote data-quote="unrated" data-source="post: 928229" data-attributes="member: 45773"><p><a href="https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/saru-attempts-to-keep-junior-stars-in-sa-20160411" target="_blank">https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/saru-attempts-to-keep-junior-stars-in-sa-20160411</a></p><p></p><p>No thats not how i understand it. If they played for the u20 team anywhere after 2012 then they are not allowed to play for another country, nowhere can i see the fine print that [USER=70842]@Tigs Man[/USER] refers to which says they had to play against another countries capture team for it to be legit.</p><p></p><p>But even if that was the case then we can say he did play against the european u20 side representing South Africa. I mean if the europeans has their capture teams as something else than their u20 sides: lets say the saxons for england then we can say with certainty that this ammendmend made by SARU was a dumb move as we (sa under 20 side) would never play agains them (A national b side such as the saxons or maori) thus will subsequently never be able to tie down these players.</p><p></p><p>So i dont think it depends on what the other countries are doing for they catchment teams (wheter its a national b team or an under 20 team) but for us the u20s is the designated team regardless of what the other countries are doing.</p><p></p><p>fact is if he played for our u20s then he wont be able to represent any other nation even with the new 5 year rule. Legally he cant play for any other nation now.</p><p> </p><p>"Shortly after joining, he was a late call-up to the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_under-20_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">South Africa Under-20</a> squad that participated at the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_IRB_Junior_World_Championship" target="_blank">2014 IRB Junior World Championship</a> in <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand" target="_blank">New Zealand</a>,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-Outeniqua_Old_Boy_Gets_Baby_Bok_Call_Up-17" target="_blank">[17]</a> replacing <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohan_Janse_van_Rensburg" target="_blank">Rohan Janse van Rensburg</a> who picked up an injury in South Africa's 61–5 victory against <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_under-20_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">Scotland</a> in the opening round in Pool C.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-South_Africa_61-5_Scotland-18" target="_blank">[18]</a> Van der Merwe was an unused replacement for their 33–24 victory over hosts <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_national_under-20_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">New Zealand</a> in their second match,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-New_Zealand_24-33_South_Africa-19" target="_blank">[19]</a> but started their final pool match, a 21–8 victory over <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoa_national_under-20_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">Samoa</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-Samoa_8-21_South_Africa-20" target="_blank">[20]</a> to help the team finish top of their pool to progress to the semi-finals. He didn't feature in their 32–25 win over New Zealand at that stage,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-South_Africa_32-25_New_Zealand-21" target="_blank">[21]</a> but was named on the bench for the final against <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_under-20_rugby_union_team" target="_blank">England</a> and came on as a replacement in the second half, with South Africa losing 20–21<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-England_21-20_South_Africa-22" target="_blank">[22]</a> to finish as runners-up in the competition. " from wikipedia</p><p></p><p>so we played the baby blacks that year with Duhan in our team, and the baby blacks are designated as New Zealands second team. </p><p><a href="https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/worldrugby/document/2018/02/26/9b82ecb4-3229-4d0a-881b-fab5cce72ce3/NSNRT-2013-2014-2015-2016-2017-and-2018-Web-version_.pdf" target="_blank">https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/worldrugby/document/2018/02/26/9b82ecb4-3229-4d0a-881b-fab5cce72ce3/NSNRT-2013-2014-2015-2016-2017-and-2018-Web-version_.pdf</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>But i dont think he will ever get called up for South Africa. not because i dont think he is good enough but litterally the coach will get fired if they start playing white wingers as thats traditionally the only spots that the black players have played in to date, the governement expects progress meaning not only do they just want the wings to be black players but multiple other positions too, anything else would be considered regression and the coaches will face national fury if they select a white winger, so i just cant see that happening unless he converts to a centre, fullback or flyhalve.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="unrated, post: 928229, member: 45773"] [URL]https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/saru-attempts-to-keep-junior-stars-in-sa-20160411[/URL] No thats not how i understand it. If they played for the u20 team anywhere after 2012 then they are not allowed to play for another country, nowhere can i see the fine print that [USER=70842]@Tigs Man[/USER] refers to which says they had to play against another countries capture team for it to be legit. But even if that was the case then we can say he did play against the european u20 side representing South Africa. I mean if the europeans has their capture teams as something else than their u20 sides: lets say the saxons for england then we can say with certainty that this ammendmend made by SARU was a dumb move as we (sa under 20 side) would never play agains them (A national b side such as the saxons or maori) thus will subsequently never be able to tie down these players. So i dont think it depends on what the other countries are doing for they catchment teams (wheter its a national b team or an under 20 team) but for us the u20s is the designated team regardless of what the other countries are doing. fact is if he played for our u20s then he wont be able to represent any other nation even with the new 5 year rule. Legally he cant play for any other nation now. "Shortly after joining, he was a late call-up to the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_national_under-20_rugby_union_team']South Africa Under-20[/URL] squad that participated at the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_IRB_Junior_World_Championship']2014 IRB Junior World Championship[/URL] in [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand']New Zealand[/URL],[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-Outeniqua_Old_Boy_Gets_Baby_Bok_Call_Up-17'][17][/URL] replacing [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohan_Janse_van_Rensburg']Rohan Janse van Rensburg[/URL] who picked up an injury in South Africa's 61–5 victory against [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_national_under-20_rugby_union_team']Scotland[/URL] in the opening round in Pool C.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-South_Africa_61-5_Scotland-18'][18][/URL] Van der Merwe was an unused replacement for their 33–24 victory over hosts [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_national_under-20_rugby_union_team']New Zealand[/URL] in their second match,[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-New_Zealand_24-33_South_Africa-19'][19][/URL] but started their final pool match, a 21–8 victory over [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samoa_national_under-20_rugby_union_team']Samoa[/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-Samoa_8-21_South_Africa-20'][20][/URL] to help the team finish top of their pool to progress to the semi-finals. He didn't feature in their 32–25 win over New Zealand at that stage,[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-South_Africa_32-25_New_Zealand-21'][21][/URL] but was named on the bench for the final against [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_national_under-20_rugby_union_team']England[/URL] and came on as a replacement in the second half, with South Africa losing 20–21[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duhan_van_der_Merwe#cite_note-England_21-20_South_Africa-22'][22][/URL] to finish as runners-up in the competition. " from wikipedia so we played the baby blacks that year with Duhan in our team, and the baby blacks are designated as New Zealands second team. [URL]https://pulse-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/worldrugby/document/2018/02/26/9b82ecb4-3229-4d0a-881b-fab5cce72ce3/NSNRT-2013-2014-2015-2016-2017-and-2018-Web-version_.pdf[/URL] But i dont think he will ever get called up for South Africa. not because i dont think he is good enough but litterally the coach will get fired if they start playing white wingers as thats traditionally the only spots that the black players have played in to date, the governement expects progress meaning not only do they just want the wings to be black players but multiple other positions too, anything else would be considered regression and the coaches will face national fury if they select a white winger, so i just cant see that happening unless he converts to a centre, fullback or flyhalve. [/QUOTE]
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