• Help Support The Rugby Forum :

Super Rugby (AU/NZ) 2022

Kiwiwomble

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
3,807
Reaction score
991
Country Flag

New Zealand

Club or Nation

Otago

1618355633070.png

also comments Aussie has been involved, might we see one team join AU and one Join NZ and keep some sort of play offs between the two comps?
 

rugbeian

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Jun 30, 2018
Messages
2,514
Reaction score
647
Country Flag

United States

Club or Nation

Glasgow

That's good news, I'm a Fiji fan in waiting. :cool: I think Fiji will be in the AU division or whatever it's going to be called and Pasifika will be in the NZ division. Just a guess...

1618359189484.png
 
Last edited:

Kiwiwomble

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
3,807
Reaction score
991
Country Flag

New Zealand

Club or Nation

Otago

these new teams are going to have a hard road, there will have to be some interesting rules around how the recruit, its hard to imagine there are two full squads of Super level players without current contracts,

will they be allowed to recruit from the exciting teams?
is that fair on the existing teams if they've developed these players
Will the existing teams be able to protects a certain number of players and the rest will be open to negotiate?
where will Moana Pasifika play? supposedly NZ and so you would think in an area with large pacific islander population, this is quite possibly south auckland, is jamming a team in between the blues and chiefs a good idea?
 

Kiwiwomble

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
3,807
Reaction score
991
Country Flag

New Zealand

Club or Nation

Otago


"two Pasifika teams joining NZR’s existing five Sky Super Rugby Aotearoa clubs and Rugby Australia’s (RA) five Super Rugby AU teams in a new tournament being planned for 2022" might not even be segregated, might be one big comp
 

rugbeian

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Jun 30, 2018
Messages
2,514
Reaction score
647
Country Flag

United States

Club or Nation

Glasgow


"two Pasifika teams joining NZR’s existing five Sky Super Rugby Aotearoa clubs and Rugby Australia’s (RA) five Super Rugby AU teams in a new tournament being planned for 2022" might not even be segregated, might be one big comp
I think one big comp is the best way to go. I wonder how many teams they'll have in the playoffs?
 
Last edited:

Umaga's Witness

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Dec 3, 2012
Messages
1,532
Reaction score
625
Country Flag

New Zealand

Club or Nation

Hurricanes

I’m curious too as to who pays the contracts. Actually I do t really know how it works now in super rugby. I’m pretty sure NZ super rugby teams have a limit on international players. Will that still be the same for moana Pacifica? I presume not. I presume it will be relaxed such that they can have as many players they want that play for pacific nations, or NZ.

but yeah may be a blow for the blues. Now there’ll be the blues, moana Pacifica, and the warriors competing for fans. and players.
 

Derpus

Bench Player
Joined
Nov 16, 2017
Messages
779
Reaction score
368
Country Flag

Australia

Club or Nation

Waratahs

I think one big comp is the best way to go. I wonder how many teams they'll have in the playoffs?
I disagree. In Aus viewing numbers have shot up since we cut off from NZ (and signed with Stan) . I think international games will actually bring more interest if there are less of them, as well.

There's not a lot to be gained by getting thumped by NZ teams all season. I actually think the Wallabies form improved a smidge just by having a little more confidence last year.

The Fiji Drua team were formed to participate in the Australian NRC comp (and actually won it). Makes the mosr sense to have them play here in a split comp in my opinion.

I also have little interest im thr Pasifika side. Seems like an Auckland based pacifika side basically already exists (Blues)
 

Kiwiwomble

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
3,807
Reaction score
991
Country Flag

New Zealand

Club or Nation

Otago

think i agree on all fronts, would have rather that had chosen the Hawaiian option...at least that would be a new market

as it stands two pools with a top four play off could be good, some cross over but only of teams that would hope would be close in level
 

rugbeian

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Jun 30, 2018
Messages
2,514
Reaction score
647
Country Flag

United States

Club or Nation

Glasgow

think i agree on all fronts, would have rather that had chosen the Hawaiian option...at least that would be a new market

as it stands two pools with a top four play off could be good, some cross over but only of teams that would hope would be close in level
Top four playoff is what I'm hoping for. That's the format they use in Major League Rugby and they also have 12 teams. They'll be expanding again next year, so it might change?
 
Last edited:

Kiwiwomble

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
3,807
Reaction score
991
Country Flag

New Zealand

Club or Nation

Otago

Top four playoff is what I'm hoping for. That's the format they use in Major League Rugby and they also have 12 teams. They'll be expanding again next year, so it might change?
you mean MLR is expanding again and might change?
 

rugbeian

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Jun 30, 2018
Messages
2,514
Reaction score
647
Country Flag

United States

Club or Nation

Glasgow

you mean MLR is expanding again and might change?
Yes. They'll be adding more teams next year and might expand the playoffs. An official decision won't be announced until this season is over. I could see expanding the playoffs by a couple of teams when MLR gets up to 18 teams, but not before then. I don't know exactly how many teams they'll be adding though. I heard a podcast interview with the Commissioner and he said it could be as many as 6. Dallas Jackals will be joining next year for sure, they've already paid the entrance fee. The other teams are still in the planning stage. He talked about another team in Canada and the possibility of one in Mexico, with the others in the USA.
 

Kiwiwomble

First XV
TRF Legend
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
3,807
Reaction score
991
Country Flag

New Zealand

Club or Nation

Otago

Yes. They'll be adding more teams next year and might expand the playoffs. An official decision won't be announced until this season is over. I could see expanding the playoffs by a couple of teams when MLR gets up to 18 teams, but not before then. I don't know exactly how many teams they'll be adding though. I heard a podcast interview with the Commissioner and he said it could be as many as 6. Dallas Jackals will be joining next year for sure, they've already paid the entrance fee. The other teams are still in the planning stage. He talked about another team in Canada and the possibility of one in Mexico, with the others in the USA.
cool, got a bit confused and thought you were talking about SR and we were getting even more teams next year or something
 

higgik

Academy Player
Joined
Jan 3, 2017
Messages
448
Reaction score
85
Country Flag

England

Club or Nation

Saracens

think i agree on all fronts, would have rather that had chosen the Hawaiian option...at least that would be a new market

as it stands two pools with a top four play off could be good, some cross over but only of teams that would hope would be close in level
Think keeping the single cross over round would be enough. That would mean a 16 game season with Top 4 play offs.
Would also make the final a special event at predetermined venue like we do in NH.
 

higgik

Academy Player
Joined
Jan 3, 2017
Messages
448
Reaction score
85
Country Flag

England

Club or Nation

Saracens

think i agree on all fronts, would have rather that had chosen the Hawaiian option...at least that would be a new market

as it stands two pools with a top four play off could be good, some cross over but only of teams that would hope would be close in level
Also agree with Hawaii as base for Moana Pasifika, more potential for fan base and investment.
 

Latest posts

Top