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<blockquote data-quote="Darwin" data-source="post: 551159" data-attributes="member: 24910"><p>I think Ellis is a bit better at Super Rugby level than you are giving him credit for. Indeed I think he has been one of the best 9's in Super Rugby over the last two years. He does<em> look </em>like a bit of a muppet though. He is an excellent support runner, has a very good tactical kicking game, and though his passing can be a bit laboured at times he actually gets the ball out to the backs quicker than most other 9's in NZ rugby, as he gets to the breakdown very quickly and doesn't ****-around once he gets there (cough.... Piri Weepu....cough). He does struggle a bit on defense, and can be pressured by aggressive opposition 9's (I remember Kerr-Barlow giving him a very hard time one match last season). Personally I would have had him in the AB's last season backing up Aaron Smith.</p><p></p><p>The players behind him are unproven at Super Rugby level though. Heinz has been pretty solid in his cameos thus thus far, but I'm not convinced he will ever be much more than a backup at Super Rugby level. I'm not a big fan of Su'a - he has some talent, but tries to do far too much himself (and has no experience at Super Rugby level).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darwin, post: 551159, member: 24910"] I think Ellis is a bit better at Super Rugby level than you are giving him credit for. Indeed I think he has been one of the best 9's in Super Rugby over the last two years. He does[I] look [/I]like a bit of a muppet though. He is an excellent support runner, has a very good tactical kicking game, and though his passing can be a bit laboured at times he actually gets the ball out to the backs quicker than most other 9's in NZ rugby, as he gets to the breakdown very quickly and doesn't ****-around once he gets there (cough.... Piri Weepu....cough). He does struggle a bit on defense, and can be pressured by aggressive opposition 9's (I remember Kerr-Barlow giving him a very hard time one match last season). Personally I would have had him in the AB's last season backing up Aaron Smith. The players behind him are unproven at Super Rugby level though. Heinz has been pretty solid in his cameos thus thus far, but I'm not convinced he will ever be much more than a backup at Super Rugby level. I'm not a big fan of Su'a - he has some talent, but tries to do far too much himself (and has no experience at Super Rugby level). [/QUOTE]
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