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Sydney told to sell out or lose Origins


Glenn Jackson and Andrew Webster | May 20, 2008


SYDNEY is in danger of being stripped of State of Origin matches because of its inability to sell out ANZ Stadium.

On the eve of another Sydney Origin match that is unlikely to be filled to capacity, fans have been warned of a push from Queensland for more games in Brisbane and of significant pressure to hold matches in Melbourne.

ARL chief executive and NSWRL general manager Geoff Carr said yesterday that if NSW fans did not attend in greater numbers, Origin games would be taken away from Sydney following the end of the current agreement with ANZ Stadium in 2012.

At present, ANZ Stadium hosts two games every second year and one in the alternate year. The Queensland Rugby League, however, is leading a push to have one game guaranteed every year for the two cities and the third given to the most deserving bid.

Carr confirmed: "When we get through these current run of contracts, the games are up for grabs. It would be great if the people of NSW voted with their feet … As much as we'd like to have two games in Sydney every second year, there's pressure on us commercially because other governments are interested in this event."

Sydney has hosted one Origin a year over the past three seasons and has sold out just one event at the 85,000-seater stadium - the second game of 2005. But in the past two years, the crowds of 72,773 and 76,924 have been relatively disappointing.

In Brisbane, the 52,000-capacity Suncorp Stadium is invariably bursting at the seams, and this year tickets for game two sold out in 90 minutes. In Sydney, the predicted crowd for tomorrow night's match is between 60,000 and 70,000, with Carr admitting "we'd need a significant spike [in sales] to sell it out".

"Origin is a massive vehicle, and all the states are very active with major events," Carr said. "The commercial obligations just can't be ignored, just like spreading the game can't be ignored. We'll always consider other options, because it's the biggest domestic representative competition of any sport in Australia, TV ratings, crowds, everything."

Asked whether the time could come when Sydney would host just one game a year, Carr said: "Ideally, no. You'd always like to give your team home-ground advantage because Queensland has only won one game at ANZ Stadium. But the other side of that's commercially very compelling. A lot of [NRL] teams have given up their traditional home games because of the commercial opportunities of playing their football elsewhere.

"Commercial realities have to be taken into account. There are competing forces for these games, and the boards have to consider all the ramifications."

The Victorian Government outlaid significant funds to bring the 2006 Origin to Telstra Dome, and did the same to secure a match next year.

After making almost $20 million on the 2006 game, the Government will put pressure - alongside their Queensland counterparts - on the ARL for a change.

"It had a significant impact [in Melbourne]," Carr said. "They did all the research on it, and the Victorian Government are very aggressive in getting more Origins down there. If Sydney supports significantly the two games, there's no debate, but the more governments are aggressively courting Origin games, the more opportunity there is if grounds aren't full for other arrangements to be considered. Origin is a premium event. It's in high demand."

NSW coach Craig Bellamy said it wasn't his job to boost ticket sales but implored Blues fans to attend the game.

"I coach a footy game, I don't sell the tickets to the game," he said yesterday. "[A big crowd] would certainly help. All players [know] the more support you've got, the more you appreciate it. We'd love for the stadium to be full but that's out of our control. I'd hope the fans, who aren't going to go to the game and are going to sit at home and watch it, would actually come out and lend us their support. Every little bit helps."

While it is doubtful the NSWRL will sell out the Origin opener, the Waratahs are on target to attract a capacity crowd for their rugby Super 14 semi-final against the Sharks at the Sydney Football Stadium. Despite having only five days to promote the match, the Tahs have already sold 8500 tickets to SCG Trust members, with general admission seats going on sale at midday today.

NSW Rugby chief executive Jim L'Estrange said he was hopeful a full house of 45,500 fans would attend.

"We don't want to get greedy and say the onus is on Sydney to fill the stadium," he said. "But we're hoping we can sell it out. It's only a short amount of time to sell the match but we're confident of doing it."

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http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/news/sydne...1182705248.html

This isn't very good... Not many NSW league boys on here, but for those of you around please get all your mates and there mates and hurry up and sell out this game!
 
LOL

Shows again how bad Sydney are at racking crowds - any sport, they just cant rack in big crowds!

I'm even more ****** though cos I was one who missed out on a ticket after they went for sale.. and people in Sydney dont even want to go!

Shame on Sydney. People in Melbourne would be more interested.
 
It's an 83K seater... not as easy to fill as people think (Brisbane and Melbourne are both 50k'ers - Melbourne host it at the Dome, not the SCG - where incidently the people of Melbourne failed to sell out a Bledisloe Cup match by about 20k seats) and it's in the middle of bloody nowhere! Add to that that it's played in the middle of the week and there are already 9 Rugby League teams in Sydney and the Waratahs have a home semi this weekend and it becomes a harder choice for people who want to go to watch all the matches.

Brisbane usually looks good because you have one team per sport (though that wasn't reflected in the Tahs Reds game, which had a bloody abysmal turnout - THAT wouldn't have happened in Sydney and in fact last year the Tahs sold out their Reds match).
 
Want to Get More People in then Don't Charge $150 for a good Ticket

I Would love to go with me Dad and Bro's to the Orgin but it's to expensive ($450.00 for Tickets $5 a beer It's a Huge Night out) the only way i went last night Was free tickets from Work
 
Yeah, but that's because none of you have jobs to go to then following morning :p .
 
Yeah, but that's because none of you have jobs to go to then following morning :p .
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Haha nice turn out for the Waratahs game last night by the way. Semi-final, dry pitch and you still couldn't even fill that pissy stadium.
 
Is it me or are just tickets in general a bloody rip off? That and the ridiculous food/beer pricing ****** me off!

Especially at the Gabba at the cricket when the fun police wont stop ******* you off either!
 
Having a read recently about the ANZ fiasco and some prominent former players made a pretty good point about how shabby ANZ stadium is in general for Rugby League (and any rectangular field game for that matter). You're too far from the action, the thing is in the middle of nowhere and the tickets are a rip off! The atmosphere is also terrible even when there are 83,000 packed in at bledisloe time... it's just not a good footy stadium full stop!
 
Having a read recently about the ANZ fiasco and some prominent former players made a pretty good point about how shabby ANZ stadium is in general for Rugby League (and any rectangular field game for that matter). You're too far from the action, the thing is in the middle of nowhere and the tickets are a rip off! The atmosphere is also terrible even when there are 83,000 packed in at bledisloe time... it's just not a goody footy stadium full stop! [/b]



This is actually an interesting point... Stadiums can actually have a huge impact on attracting crowds. The Montreal Alouettes a CFL team which now has some of the best attendances in the league used to play at the Olympic stadium in Montreal. It is a 65,000 seat wooly mammoth monstrosity but anybody who has ever watched any sporting event there knows its **** for any sort of sport as its in the middle of nowhere and the views of the game in the stadium are terrible.



The Als played there for 5 years and crowds were terrible ... there was even talk of folding the team. The Als moved their games to Percival Molson stadium which is right downtown Montreal. This stadium was in absolute terrible condition as it was over a 100 years old but the Als slowly started renovating.... bringing capacity upto 25,000 and soon to be increased to 30,000. As of now they have sold out their past 45 consecutive games at the stadium.



Maybe thats some food for thought for Origins planners
 
Until the government can justify building a rectangular 80,000 seat stadium, the big games will continue to be played at ANZ. If we win the bid to host the soccer world cup then Sydney might get something decent. I think the rise of soccer in this country will defiantley be of advantage.
 

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