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<blockquote data-quote="BigTen" data-source="post: 98060"><p>"...but its played by pansies who drop dead if you so much as touch them..." <strong>Caledfwlch</strong></p><p></p><p>That's a pretty tough call, I think.</p><p></p><p>The problem that football has at the moment is that players are generally rewarded for taking drives etc. If they manage to fool the referees into giving crucial penalties or sending players off they get a huge reward. A reward that could prove to be the winning of the match. However if they get caught they worst that they are looking at is a yellow card and that just means that they have to stay out of trouble for the rest of the match.</p><p></p><p>So the risk v reward is way in favour of the reward and that is why players keep on doing it.</p><p></p><p>The referees need to be in better positions and they need to crack down on diving, simulation, time-wasting, swearing and all of the other things that hurt football and football's image.</p><p></p><p>It is creeping into other sports - living in Melbourne I get to hear it said about Aussie Rules all the time and I even see it creeping into rugby at times. Watch how some teams always seem to have a tight-five player injured just before a scrum at a crucial time of the game and watch their miracle "cure" happen once their team-mates have had a chance for a breather. It is obvious that football has a huge problem - moreso than other sports but don't think for a single second that it is solely a football problem.</p><p></p><p>And back to the point on footballers being soft - I would only think that ignorant people would either say that or believe it. You prepare yourself for the individual sport and condition yourself accordingly. Footballers, especially midfielders have to cover a lot of ground and they have to do it quickly and therefore they will tend to be fairly light - 70-80kg on average. They also need to have a much wider skill-set range and as such will simply not have the time to bulk up to 100kg plus at the gym. </p><p></p><p>A rugby player, especially a forward, needs to be heavily built and strong and will therefore spend less time on building skill than they would on pushing iron at the gym.</p><p></p><p>Does anyone honestly believe that had footballers like Roy Keane, Robbie Savage, Sol Campbel etc, etc been rugby fans rather than football fans that they would not have made it into a highly competitive level of rugby?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigTen, post: 98060"] "...but its played by pansies who drop dead if you so much as touch them..." [b]Caledfwlch[/b] That's a pretty tough call, I think. The problem that football has at the moment is that players are generally rewarded for taking drives etc. If they manage to fool the referees into giving crucial penalties or sending players off they get a huge reward. A reward that could prove to be the winning of the match. However if they get caught they worst that they are looking at is a yellow card and that just means that they have to stay out of trouble for the rest of the match. So the risk v reward is way in favour of the reward and that is why players keep on doing it. The referees need to be in better positions and they need to crack down on diving, simulation, time-wasting, swearing and all of the other things that hurt football and football's image. It is creeping into other sports - living in Melbourne I get to hear it said about Aussie Rules all the time and I even see it creeping into rugby at times. Watch how some teams always seem to have a tight-five player injured just before a scrum at a crucial time of the game and watch their miracle "cure" happen once their team-mates have had a chance for a breather. It is obvious that football has a huge problem - moreso than other sports but don't think for a single second that it is solely a football problem. And back to the point on footballers being soft - I would only think that ignorant people would either say that or believe it. You prepare yourself for the individual sport and condition yourself accordingly. Footballers, especially midfielders have to cover a lot of ground and they have to do it quickly and therefore they will tend to be fairly light - 70-80kg on average. They also need to have a much wider skill-set range and as such will simply not have the time to bulk up to 100kg plus at the gym. A rugby player, especially a forward, needs to be heavily built and strong and will therefore spend less time on building skill than they would on pushing iron at the gym. Does anyone honestly believe that had footballers like Roy Keane, Robbie Savage, Sol Campbel etc, etc been rugby fans rather than football fans that they would not have made it into a highly competitive level of rugby? [/QUOTE]
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