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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 814558" data-attributes="member: 73592"><p>Thank you for actually answering a question about the weakened tours. I think you have may have a different version of the word "resting" though - generally we're talking about players undergoing surgery / rehab; or simply being dropped for a different player. It'd be nice if you told me who you think stayed at home to rest, but hey.</p><p></p><p>England to NZ&Aus 2004: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/3719495.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/3719495.stm</a></p><p>3 rested; 10 injured/retired 1 dropped compared to the RWC squad.</p><p>None missing due to club commitments.</p><p></p><p>England to NZ 2008: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7396322.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7396322.stm</a></p><p>Vickery, Shaw, Geraghty, Wilkionson, Moody, Deacon - injured; Balshaw, Vainikolo - dropped (rightly, for Mike Brown and Yopsy Ojo)</p><p>None rested; none missing due to club commitments.</p><p></p><p>England to NZ 2014 - already covered - that's what happens if you insist on playing the 1st test a week before it's due.</p><p></p><p>Ireland to NZ 2012: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/18241131" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/18241131</a></p><p>O'Connell, Court, Boss, Ferris - injured</p><p>None rested; none missing due to club commitments</p><p></p><p>Wales to RSA 2008: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/7398974.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/7398974.stm</a></p><p>Fair play - IIRC there was a pretty major dust up between the WRU and the regions - so not necessarily rested or club commitments directly, mroe dropped to prove a point by Gatland</p><p></p><p>Wales to NZ 2010: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/18308050" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/18308050</a></p><p>Can't see anyone being rested or missing due to club commitments - 2 missing with weddings to attend (1 his own, 1 his sister's); and a couple of retirements though.</p><p></p><p>France - test rugby a distant 3rd behind Top14 and HC rugby; not relevant to the conversation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Doing your home-work for you, I make that 1 from 6 (discounting France). If you think I've missed some; please point them out; it's decidedly possible that I have. It seems more likely though that the NZ press, not knowing much about NH rugby, labelled them as "weakened touring squad" without realising that player A is banned, player B is injured, players C is retired etc etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 814558, member: 73592"] Thank you for actually answering a question about the weakened tours. I think you have may have a different version of the word "resting" though - generally we're talking about players undergoing surgery / rehab; or simply being dropped for a different player. It'd be nice if you told me who you think stayed at home to rest, but hey. England to NZ&Aus 2004: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/international/3719495.stm[/url] 3 rested; 10 injured/retired 1 dropped compared to the RWC squad. None missing due to club commitments. England to NZ 2008: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/english/7396322.stm[/url] Vickery, Shaw, Geraghty, Wilkionson, Moody, Deacon - injured; Balshaw, Vainikolo - dropped (rightly, for Mike Brown and Yopsy Ojo) None rested; none missing due to club commitments. England to NZ 2014 - already covered - that's what happens if you insist on playing the 1st test a week before it's due. Ireland to NZ 2012: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/18241131[/url] O'Connell, Court, Boss, Ferris - injured None rested; none missing due to club commitments Wales to RSA 2008: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/7398974.stm[/url] Fair play - IIRC there was a pretty major dust up between the WRU and the regions - so not necessarily rested or club commitments directly, mroe dropped to prove a point by Gatland Wales to NZ 2010: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/18308050[/url] Can't see anyone being rested or missing due to club commitments - 2 missing with weddings to attend (1 his own, 1 his sister's); and a couple of retirements though. France - test rugby a distant 3rd behind Top14 and HC rugby; not relevant to the conversation. Doing your home-work for you, I make that 1 from 6 (discounting France). If you think I've missed some; please point them out; it's decidedly possible that I have. It seems more likely though that the NZ press, not knowing much about NH rugby, labelled them as "weakened touring squad" without realising that player A is banned, player B is injured, players C is retired etc etc. [/QUOTE]
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