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<blockquote data-quote="smartcooky" data-source="post: 276132"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jethro @ Aug 28 2009, 07:41 AM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=409596" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>Its not as simple as that. </p><p></p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Actually it is, the current DG ******** is certainly an awesome advertisement for the game for the non rugby casual viewer, similar to those hollywood flops the wendy ballers persist in making. Neither does their respective sports any good and it simply looks naff. You took your advantage by having a snap at goal, why should a completely bollocked play get what is seen as rewarded (as my wife asked me after a particular horrid example last year). The idea of advantage is you try to take, oh I don't know, advantage of the situation knowing you have the penalty in the bank, not simply doing something dire to immediatly take the penalty.</p><p></p><p>Test match rugby isn't exactly inundating us with tries and classy plays currently, judging from this year's T3. Okay the last one was intense and nail biting, but try sitting through a second viewing .. don't get me started on what ever the hell the Saffas are currently doing, it makes the Waratahs look like they are playing an exciting brand of rugby.</p><p></p><p>Kicking should be a tactic no the only tactic.</p><p></p><p>[/b][/quote]</p><p></p><p>I was just explaining the Advantage Law, but I do agree with you. Kicking has become the tactic of choice, almost the only game it town, especially mindless, aimless kick and hope. It is destroying the game. </p><p></p><p>It began with the 2007 RWC final (note - that was PRE ELV's!!!) where there were nearly 100 kicks in play over the 80 minutes, most of them aimless up-and-unders (or Garryowens or bombs, whatever you want to call them). The South Africans basically won the World Cup final by simply kicking the ball in the air for 80 minutes and capitalising on five errors by England. The Poms were only able to capitalise on two errors by the Saffas. That's one aimless kick about every 50 seconds. It was the worst possible advertisement for Rugby Union in a match that should have been an international showcase for The Game.</p><p></p><p>The whole reason for this boring and interminable kickfest is not the ELVs as some would have you believe (it began well before then) but its the appalling shambles at the breakdown. Working out which team will be penalised at the breakdown has become such a lottery, that most teams have become unwilling to play with the ball in their own half or within kicking range, so they kick the ball away. It has almost become better to NOT have the ball at all in your own half.</p><p></p><p>I have examined the video of all the penalties from which goals were kicked in the Sydney Bledisloe match. Most of the decisions were correct; what Kaplan penalised was actually happening. The problem is that there were other offences taking place on both sides that could equally have attracted a penalty as well. A different referee might have chosen to penalise those other things instead. As I said, it has become a lottery.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="smartcooky, post: 276132"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jethro @ Aug 28 2009, 07:41 AM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=409596']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> Its not as simple as that. [/b][/quote] Actually it is, the current DG ******** is certainly an awesome advertisement for the game for the non rugby casual viewer, similar to those hollywood flops the wendy ballers persist in making. Neither does their respective sports any good and it simply looks naff. You took your advantage by having a snap at goal, why should a completely bollocked play get what is seen as rewarded (as my wife asked me after a particular horrid example last year). The idea of advantage is you try to take, oh I don't know, advantage of the situation knowing you have the penalty in the bank, not simply doing something dire to immediatly take the penalty. Test match rugby isn't exactly inundating us with tries and classy plays currently, judging from this year's T3. Okay the last one was intense and nail biting, but try sitting through a second viewing .. don't get me started on what ever the hell the Saffas are currently doing, it makes the Waratahs look like they are playing an exciting brand of rugby. Kicking should be a tactic no the only tactic. [/b][/quote] I was just explaining the Advantage Law, but I do agree with you. Kicking has become the tactic of choice, almost the only game it town, especially mindless, aimless kick and hope. It is destroying the game. It began with the 2007 RWC final (note - that was PRE ELV's!!!) where there were nearly 100 kicks in play over the 80 minutes, most of them aimless up-and-unders (or Garryowens or bombs, whatever you want to call them). The South Africans basically won the World Cup final by simply kicking the ball in the air for 80 minutes and capitalising on five errors by England. The Poms were only able to capitalise on two errors by the Saffas. That's one aimless kick about every 50 seconds. It was the worst possible advertisement for Rugby Union in a match that should have been an international showcase for The Game. The whole reason for this boring and interminable kickfest is not the ELVs as some would have you believe (it began well before then) but its the appalling shambles at the breakdown. Working out which team will be penalised at the breakdown has become such a lottery, that most teams have become unwilling to play with the ball in their own half or within kicking range, so they kick the ball away. It has almost become better to NOT have the ball at all in your own half. I have examined the video of all the penalties from which goals were kicked in the Sydney Bledisloe match. Most of the decisions were correct; what Kaplan penalised was actually happening. The problem is that there were other offences taking place on both sides that could equally have attracted a penalty as well. A different referee might have chosen to penalise those other things instead. As I said, it has become a lottery. [/QUOTE]
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