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<blockquote data-quote="Melhor Time" data-source="post: 276299"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smartcooky @ Aug 26 2009, 07:43 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=409523" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>The coverage of the Currie Cup on French rugby websites is all about Juan Martin Hernandez and the man making news from the 3N is Dan Carter. </p><p></p><p>In terms of the comp being two divisions it looks a lot more competitive than last season. After three rounds the results bare very hard to predict. Some amazing upsets already. No team has won all three matches. Don't worry about getting out of bed. Just tape the games! </p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (<strong>Thingimubob</strong> @ Aug 26 2009, 07:43 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=409523" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>The point is that a test match has two teams involved and is thus or prime interest to people of these two countries and secondary interest to others. Australia vs South Africa is not as interesting to Smartcooky as Australia vs New Zealand because, in his own words, he ''has no stake in the game". This is precisely my point in referencing Bayonne vs Stade Francais. The number of test teams represented was larger. Again, Juan Martin Hernandez is not French but dominated the Top 14 for a number of seasons and so now the French media are continuing to follow his career even though he is in South Africa. The point, should therefore be clear of the wonders that club rugby can do for the game. Test rugby is 10 games per year. Exposing more players from more places is doing wonders for the sport. A player plays towards 40 games per year. French clubs having so many elite players from Italy, France, England, Argentina, Fiji, Scotland and elsewhere is wonderful. </p><p></p><p>Should people watch the Top 14 instead of South Africa vs Australia? No, of course not. People will continue to watch whatever is relevant to them. It just so happens that the Top 14 is so cosmopolitan now that it has players from <u>all</u> World Cup 2007 countries and every game is packed with test players. Funnilly rnoguh this also means that many Top 14 games provide reasons for many countries to be interested as so many teams elite players are involved. Is there any wonder the competition is booming? Or that Bayonne were able to get 30,000 to a game in Spain? The thing about international rugby is that it is hard to see multiple teams. Argentina not being in the Tri Nations is so embarrassing. It is truely pathetic. Fiji should be there based on rugby's results over recent years. They only got to play South Africa in a World Cup quarter final. </p><p></p><p>So, in terms of test rugby being the pinnacle the reality is that for most teams they play little test rugby and often meaningless test rugby. Aside from the 3N and the 6N what is in it for others? Argentina hav only 1 home test this year, yes only one. Their fans getting to see Leguizamon, Roncero and Pedro Ledesma today vs Todeschini (SF Paris vs Montpellier) carries a lot of significance, does it not? The same game had France's two flyhalves, Beauxis and Trinh-Duc playing head to head and had the 6N battle of Haskell vs Ouredraogo too. A test second row of Pape / Palmer for SF and Italian winger Bergamasco was there too as was Samoan prop Taleafoa and others from England, Australia and South Africa. Aussie Mark Gasnier played well. So, indeed, yes test rugby is the most important thing, this is, infact my point. Smartcooky has a good explanation for why this is the case. Here, in this Top 14 example I have used test rugby to show why SF Paris vs Montpellier ought to be of higher importance to more people than South Africa vs Australia. If you are from Argentina you have players from your team playing. Same goes if you are English, Samoan, Italian or French. In the interests of ones national team anyone from these countries has a lot to watch for. One from these countries, on the other hand, has nothing from RSA vs Australia.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Melhor Time, post: 276299"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (smartcooky @ Aug 26 2009, 07:43 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=409523']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> The coverage of the Currie Cup on French rugby websites is all about Juan Martin Hernandez and the man making news from the 3N is Dan Carter. In terms of the comp being two divisions it looks a lot more competitive than last season. After three rounds the results bare very hard to predict. Some amazing upsets already. No team has won all three matches. Don't worry about getting out of bed. Just tape the games! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE ([b]Thingimubob[/b] @ Aug 26 2009, 07:43 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=409523']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> The point is that a test match has two teams involved and is thus or prime interest to people of these two countries and secondary interest to others. Australia vs South Africa is not as interesting to Smartcooky as Australia vs New Zealand because, in his own words, he ''has no stake in the game". This is precisely my point in referencing Bayonne vs Stade Francais. The number of test teams represented was larger. Again, Juan Martin Hernandez is not French but dominated the Top 14 for a number of seasons and so now the French media are continuing to follow his career even though he is in South Africa. The point, should therefore be clear of the wonders that club rugby can do for the game. Test rugby is 10 games per year. Exposing more players from more places is doing wonders for the sport. A player plays towards 40 games per year. French clubs having so many elite players from Italy, France, England, Argentina, Fiji, Scotland and elsewhere is wonderful. Should people watch the Top 14 instead of South Africa vs Australia? No, of course not. People will continue to watch whatever is relevant to them. It just so happens that the Top 14 is so cosmopolitan now that it has players from [u]all[/u] World Cup 2007 countries and every game is packed with test players. Funnilly rnoguh this also means that many Top 14 games provide reasons for many countries to be interested as so many teams elite players are involved. Is there any wonder the competition is booming? Or that Bayonne were able to get 30,000 to a game in Spain? The thing about international rugby is that it is hard to see multiple teams. Argentina not being in the Tri Nations is so embarrassing. It is truely pathetic. Fiji should be there based on rugby's results over recent years. They only got to play South Africa in a World Cup quarter final. So, in terms of test rugby being the pinnacle the reality is that for most teams they play little test rugby and often meaningless test rugby. Aside from the 3N and the 6N what is in it for others? Argentina hav only 1 home test this year, yes only one. Their fans getting to see Leguizamon, Roncero and Pedro Ledesma today vs Todeschini (SF Paris vs Montpellier) carries a lot of significance, does it not? The same game had France's two flyhalves, Beauxis and Trinh-Duc playing head to head and had the 6N battle of Haskell vs Ouredraogo too. A test second row of Pape / Palmer for SF and Italian winger Bergamasco was there too as was Samoan prop Taleafoa and others from England, Australia and South Africa. Aussie Mark Gasnier played well. So, indeed, yes test rugby is the most important thing, this is, infact my point. Smartcooky has a good explanation for why this is the case. Here, in this Top 14 example I have used test rugby to show why SF Paris vs Montpellier ought to be of higher importance to more people than South Africa vs Australia. If you are from Argentina you have players from your team playing. Same goes if you are English, Samoan, Italian or French. In the interests of ones national team anyone from these countries has a lot to watch for. One from these countries, on the other hand, has nothing from RSA vs Australia. [/QUOTE]
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